From nobody Sun Jan 22 16:19:51 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4P0JNc72Fsz312PG for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [147.160.157.40]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "A1-48603", Issuer "A1-48603" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4P0JNc4mNzz4HQJ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 30MGJr74092271 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:19:53 GMT (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 30MGJpt2092262; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:19:51 GMT (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:19:51 +0000 (UTC) From: doug@safeport.com Reply-To: doug@fledge.watson.org To: Paul Procacci cc: Michael Schuster , "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , Ian Smith , freeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Out of order posting (was:: Load 0.20 on a freshly installed idle system) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <22ffa20-16d6-aedc-ce61-e567531112@safeport.com> References: <1889CB4C-4B11-4178-8446-97DA9E5EC35A@nimnet.asn.au> <20230122060127.GB8068@eureka.lemis.com> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="621616949-1966623719-1674404393=:78934" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4P0JNc4mNzz4HQJ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6405, ipnet:147.160.157.0/24, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --621616949-1966623719-1674404393=:78934 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Paul Procacci wrote: > As per your last couple of statements; I agree. > I won't however conform for the reasons already given. > If I'm breaking the rules, "punish" me. > I won't cry about it nor hate anyone for doing so. > The only thing people on this list would lose is the rare and occasional time I > help someone. > I'll still be in irc on occasion, still be trolling bug reports, etc. > > I swear I won't be heart broken.  Have at it. > ~Paul  > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 1:52 AM Michael Schuster > wrote: > Late to the party (I admit it), still...  > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 07:37 Paul Procacci > wrote: > . > Unless I'm using an email client where I can move a cursor to the > position needed to tip me off what kind of posting is required for > said email (like Mutt), then the steps necessary to conform to > various `rules'  on various forms/lists/work emails/etc is simply > too much work. > > > In my opinion, if this little piece of effort (which is just a few clicks > in my experience on both phone or desktop computer) is more effort than > what you're trying to say... Well, you get the idea.  > > Also (and this has been written many times), by you avoiding the effort > once of streamlining your response, you're putting that effort on every > one of your readers.  > > Also a fact: not once has anyone complained to me about top posting > until now. > Also a fact: I was asked not to bottom post elsewhere albeit quite a > long time ago. > > > Just as you need to know the different rules for driving in different > countries or for speaking different languages (sensibly), there are also > slightly different rules on "moving" in different circles.  > The fact that one community (or was it perhaps a single individual? ) > frowns on top posting is just that - one fact. So?  Totally correct. I really do not understand the, "I don't have to follow the rules" attitude. With all our corporate clients, we top post because that's the ROR. Not so here. What's so hard about that? I use pine, roundcube, and thunderbird it is trivially easy to follow the ROR in all these MDAs. --621616949-1966623719-1674404393=:78934--