From nobody Sun Jan 22 07:18:00 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4P04MT0xvjz2v7bR for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 07:18:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x336.google.com (mail-ot1-x336.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::336]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4P04MS5pD7z4P63; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 07:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ot1-x336.google.com with SMTP id cm26-20020a056830651a00b00684e5c0108dso5576545otb.9; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 23:18:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=07KLJwjFRpM1/U5/2mtg+oByKTCskFGauiFDAYkq3R0=; b=oLv4yyPMXeaUWfE8ZRTL63aVO35Fjz8aHTvwOfsd3MCqIjeZxYT/oD317rKDBRnBbh +078NxMM6r5uIraZwyKLYuuLeK09tR4AM9HEuFtK80rFiTasvBVHC9BkVBasiSzjNEAv h1zZMa5VLJ5MgAST7ONGqEFOUaL6ACMtTtvx3mumMEdiOOPh+Nk/79U9tNKZe1eZZghh iQMYLGBNXcF5OgSipUoHS19Myfmdz9iZkUFfbKZY0M5t2imNw++DnfcMlCktN/cYQmYw /H/Me83n9m6GNPK1p5AP438pZjxgTkftI92C7TK0qXyEcnWGoG8Bu4Rcr8UOPcsdF2q3 QbbQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=07KLJwjFRpM1/U5/2mtg+oByKTCskFGauiFDAYkq3R0=; b=lEWurLoHUnJMM+gLEDYaxuJ5xKqiuKQ200KN5h4aQHzARWTlkm2G+l2mbhpPJfIhd0 aQtT8G5wZq4yI6UPhpng6gUEzgdTwEBk4hfgpOe96PCbFyZ+QIe7PHV+D4BcKjOapQvN U8ennpElPDaVmb9EVKHQLYPckFls6x/va+7we4SqAhK4/yKK/Z33TRwRB0yJmJ3noh5M 2eRHUpBspB0Mint9IY96RnCjRog35qsyn2LaNCDnGLoV0n/nzlUu/Va5cGFZopgTHPQ/ a/ALzIxlGsoqIP0Ie53lJK9XNcvQEH8MnBiwy5M4pyeJpGj8LIWP9z+AQYQNH+SXgPiZ boxA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2ko31USU1ckq2euIbQIVAKSTaAcxttgdBOZxEicpTR36Dgr+Fj/c C7Bnte1y24jt9LGaEJxUEso6TZ7V2X42sOWsHcTjWlJzuQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXuhL4QNuDBMZP5GvHMUlRC/qRhum2XjF0ZRIdfkbZvvJ52WJZKzgbmDQ6NbyIJo+lZRw8fe6IsVy7PsIsH9l+E= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1211:b0:684:9eae:c451 with SMTP id r17-20020a056830121100b006849eaec451mr1223228otp.267.1674371891694; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 23:18:11 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1889CB4C-4B11-4178-8446-97DA9E5EC35A@nimnet.asn.au> <20230122060127.GB8068@eureka.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: From: Paul Procacci Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 02:18:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Out of order posting (was:: Load 0.20 on a freshly installed idle system) To: Michael Schuster Cc: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , Ian Smith , freeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d38fab05f2d5157c" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4P04MS5pD7z4P63 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000d38fab05f2d5157c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" As per your last couple of statements; I agree. I won't however conform for the reasons already given. If I'm breaking the rules, "punish" me. I won't cry about it nor hate anyone for doing so. The only thing people on this list would lose is the rare and occasional time I help someone. I'll still be in irc on occasion, still be trolling bug reports, etc. I swear I won't be heart broken. Have at it. ~Paul On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 1:52 AM Michael Schuster wrote: > Late to the party (I admit it), still... > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 07:37 Paul Procacci wrote: > >> . >> Unless I'm using an email client where I can move a cursor to the >> position needed to tip me off what kind of posting is required for said >> email (like Mutt), then the steps necessary to conform to various `rules' >> on various forms/lists/work emails/etc is simply too much work. >> > > In my opinion, if this little piece of effort (which is just a few clicks > in my experience on both phone or desktop computer) is more effort than > what you're trying to say... Well, you get the idea. > > Also (and this has been written many times), by you avoiding the effort > once of streamlining your response, you're putting that effort on every one > of your readers. > > Also a fact: not once has anyone complained to me about top posting until >> now. >> Also a fact: I was asked not to bottom post elsewhere albeit quite a long >> time ago. >> > > Just as you need to know the different rules for driving in different > countries or for speaking different languages (sensibly), there are also > slightly different rules on "moving" in different circles. > The fact that one community (or was it perhaps a single individual? ) > frowns on top posting is just that - one fact. So? > > Regards > Michael > [ previous stuff omitted] > -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --000000000000d38fab05f2d5157c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As per your last couple of statements; I agree.
I won't however conform for the reasons already given.
If I= 'm breaking the rules, "punish" me.
I won't cry= about it nor hate anyone for doing so.
The only thing people= on this list would lose is the rare and occasional time I help someone.
I'll still be in irc on occasion, still be trolling bug rep= orts, etc.

I swear I won't be heart broken.=C2=A0 Hav= e at it.
~Paul=C2=A0

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 1:52 AM Mi= chael Schuster <michaelspri= vate@gmail.com> wrote:
Late to the party (I admit it), still.= ..=C2=A0

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023, 07:37 Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com> wrote:
= .
Unless I'm using an email client where I can move a cursor = to the position needed to tip me off what kind of posting is required for s= aid email (like Mutt), then the steps necessary to conform to various `rule= s'=C2=A0 on various forms/lists/work emails/etc is simply too much work= .

In my opinion, if this little piece of effort (which is just a= few clicks in my experience on both phone or desktop computer) is more eff= ort than what you're trying to say... Well, you get the idea.=C2=A0

Also (and this has been wri= tten many times), by you avoiding the effort once of streamlining your resp= onse, you're putting that effort on every one of your readers.=C2=A0

Also a fact: not once has anyone complained to me about top postin= g until now.
Also a fact: I was asked not to bottom post else= where albeit quite a long time ago.

Just as you need to know the= different rules for driving in different countries or for speaking differe= nt languages (sensibly), there are also slightly different rules on "m= oving" in different circles.=C2=A0
The fact tha= t one community (or was it perhaps a single individual? ) frowns on top pos= ting is just that - one fact. So?=C2=A0

Regards=C2=A0
Michael=C2=A0
[ previous stuff omitted]=C2=A0


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