From nobody Wed Dec 13 08:57:33 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SqqBd69zqz53RhN for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2023 08:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [217.72.192.75]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "Telekom Security ServerID OV Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SqqBd1w4sz4FcT for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2023 08:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from terra.edvax.de ([178.5.232.36]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [213.165.67.113]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mt7st-1rSXez47S5-00tW8J; Wed, 13 Dec 2023 09:57:45 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (r56 [10.200.1.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by terra.edvax.de (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPA id 3BD8vcRx035152; Wed, 13 Dec 2023 09:57:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 09:57:33 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DMA, not Sendmail on 14-RELEASE Message-Id: <20231213095733.93c8a3bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <603e9a9d3bfaa6b03197a74c794441a2b7e27f53.camel@riseup.net> References: <20231212195444.5b2f1b61.freebsd@edvax.de> <20231212195639.AF1A17E28322@ary.local> <20231212213146.526bb306.freebsd@edvax.de> <20231212203924.473e7ccbc24b7f4a096d9f5b@sohara.org> <603e9a9d3bfaa6b03197a74c794441a2b7e27f53.camel@riseup.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:zQdxZLLpOkfkBewhHsQH1DHaw7IiIEelWItv2IIjSJISFImHGQC ex+KyR7C6cF7sDYb55vXoDCyVHHDUF1VGK/QdtAP1JpkNsVl6NsoB1VHu7Yxji49/7kX32F sIaZ6RM0EWAudSI1py2ExTeS/bq6c50993A0Mvh8XgyJ9GWUe1quiEQSQ3LcWsbv7t7pZEA uNwGCKEMU5afhXiGYameA== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:/8gBu2PKDtY=;atWsU80vS0utfL/ThdwkhDeaxNL PoW1ZZtWJ/FpO6mLB7IOr/dGjnHo/M1BBLO8xXAFpW3s2iN/zG8Qa3RuQQhULihJEoTzT+f5w VdocRNB/HV3RStEcxJqZBCaqC3W/8e87gbg1cTGHYXKPLCNCnayYjNtvpOA4hdyLlfz9zuB/R CiUiSwHO1ScAjQXA/OVXy5j8n/nM2/RNpKgXr6101bf+CdXtApVxn8HV2RZRuxPJb5OYoSsWe 4vB6VxHNRFmXgJlr63qE7lK4AKd0HkhF9u9XtpW5YOYqKzeLI3l+vBQE7/A31bRfTmopHVJuz EcITB9w9bsN8qoOEehOPkD89PRIZ4ndPByFs3bCVHImerZ8YJtrai25OsOA1tBQ2hzyjjln8W pRWPbSFjvBtMG0JvDarg0zvtKQ6TmAcJXSE1teN0nTPPIFi4+wMKCA7k131L3Kp5RnigjcvaY GeXojDYdXDREueMmA6aChq+nPf6ge3aSZS4+9gvI9YAqoooGfv7oMIthFtecNplDi17Xb/hKs QZKQL6+u32eBFne6cl0DMk14wgrNSls7/IvqOpL3+opHiDZFxiRtQb3cSNAkwegUp9uairO3U deBMUl0dltPYi07/zqNqmCaP1MOLHnY4eTKiY0BidNFGN89QiBDvzgJq95ScCjbiwNronVn1d aaRSxvwpApKu5wCH4BMgv1VtbMDXP7b1BgHA1NRM8gxha0/95+l0pulxc+NxIFNfU0W9znNFF eABlWMcOnkRRRxETA4LLiEP+c/qgx1QE6SuSLLETgDx7TLOC6unXBdaNmDGSPp8d2TMBIpbEt qP1XO5Js7uaDx100zFvFvkRSo09dXgESRuPOzfy1+6mWmFEKKXbOUUPGav9OdlLI+Em70hHvd rRziDmNNJ8W5ceA== X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:217.72.192.0/20, country:DE] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SqqBd1w4sz4FcT On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 22:26:51 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2023-12-12 at 20:39 +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > Be thankful we don't have systemd to contend with. > > I'm a Linux user and not a fan of systemd. However, actually the keyword > is "udev". And there was and somewhere still is HAL, PolicyKit, evdev... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...