From nobody Tue Dec 12 20:39:24 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SqVpW4dJ0z53CX6 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d52500024c782e.803aac5b1616454ea3ae2d95a0df77cc@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SqVpW1cWBz4fNd for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d52500024c782e.803aac5b1616454ea3ae2d95a0df77cc@email-od.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1702413571; x=1705005571; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=ZbxtyvkDuyv8sPYuQLUJxMonksNlygyB4D9/qD5oXYI=; b=WBLbdloxCgTST3/989w5o2cUfKrcL0LHGVPmyvzJfJ5EmSXVWUxHKvBKVdjbfXUJhMI8D0KrbS+qV8gFXS6O32AlGmIek4JPoFQO00UDHWp2RBvcbxbamEPYldTTXMVRljhxPNaH/j+IVjGVwvraFYYCgIl2h1wZSxBgB6n5ZZQ= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDUyNTAwMDI0Yzc4MmUuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r2.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.190.2]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:39:30 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.us-west-2.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:39:27 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1rD9XJ-000Ia2-3e; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:39:25 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:39:24 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Polytropon Cc: Aryeh Friedman , Paul Procacci , John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DMA, not Sendmail on 14-RELEASE Message-Id: <20231212203924.473e7ccbc24b7f4a096d9f5b@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20231212213146.526bb306.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20231212195444.5b2f1b61.freebsd@edvax.de> <20231212195639.AF1A17E28322@ary.local> <20231212213146.526bb306.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SqVpW1cWBz4fNd On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:31:46 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > Some other things require you > to jump through hoops and still get suboptimal > results that can change into real problems with > the next big system update... Be thankful we don't have systemd to contend with. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith