From nobody Tue Dec 12 19:56:39 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SqTs44g4Mz538HC for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SqTs43lSZz4Sp6 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: (qmail 80471 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2023 19:56:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:cleverness; s=13a556578baf7.k2312; bh=eO7+3EKXY+f3tYOBWHum1WrUJPyL9lgOCHjVe4WV0QM=; b=U6cnEt9khHwXpjY1xEaGmkQbsIazufC5uik4l4fZwcUodoUOcpA3riU1FIDbsKlgoda32+iinl9KmVnolTOeLRzwTNXqN6HufwETVIrD2c4sncwDoMYJEqjPHzCnN7KEYnmeWirYrxoAIvtB+Mn+pTNDxMcnP2U3zXKGJzROSU4blb3h4wxoaq4KbfpvTBNnjv3OfnI0yNFSg+AOBlCh6219i+P9jM3I6duzY9kOQV04xZOd3e/QWmyX/Vfw9ioBQ8+weyf27CYjGknRlYWV8qA8Ck837Ob1RuaVi5D/zYSAKXi3Aot8CU/ITaGZE1mIoLCHpq2qdO+CMjbZjNIdKw== Received: from ary.local ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA CHACHA20-POLY1305 AEAD) via TCP6; 12 Dec 2023 19:56:39 -0000 Received: by ary.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id AF1A17E28322; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 14:56:39 -0500 (EST) Date: 12 Dec 2023 14:56:39 -0500 Message-Id: <20231212195639.AF1A17E28322@ary.local> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: DMA, not Sendmail on 14-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20231212195444.5b2f1b61.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Cleverness: minimal List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SqTs43lSZz4Sp6 It appears that Polytropon said: >On 12 Dec 2023 11:09:37 -0500, John Levine wrote: >> If you do want to run a mail server, you probably want to use postfix >> or exim so you don't have to deal with sendmail's antique and rococo >> configuration system. Having sendmail preinstalled just gets in the >> way. > >On the other hand, if you just want to use the system's >mailer to run a "TLS relay", it is not needed to install >and configure a full 3rd party mail server - initially >sendmail does serve here quite well. On the other hand, >can dma do this? Yes, of course. DMA relays to a smarthost and can use TLS to the smarthost's port 587, 465, or I suppose 25. I'm not really asking, instead I would >install sendmail from ports if I needed that kind of >software. But why? DMA Is already there and does what you want. R's, John