From nobody Tue Dec 12 19:55:02 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SqTqR5t9fz537x3 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x530.google.com (mail-ed1-x530.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::530]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SqTqR2DbJz4RsG for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ed1-x530.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-548ce39b101so8575519a12.2 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 11:55:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1702410914; x=1703015714; darn=freebsd.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=/7gN5mUSA5G/iZsU5OZR8MAq/IvcRZdbpcEx+Q1DdCY=; b=JDKHmzh/NjRaq6E52tviac3EWasQlu9a6jr44qM1FSjhdu4IG5vJ2ZFyQdwRFdlwVZ oAyaspxT3iAONxtDE79dOnpBlh7TuX0CWequuTW4fLf0BnS8ub2PtDg0g4lu4WMziBe+ Y2eoF6+mSjs6zIN6ktl9PpeoA8Zr7LE+P4qm8FhbkFsa/oU2sfC2tHg1r9yclHWtN3z2 1dCzNlcj46riGtD0SMnl2hsaPQMPg+hfFzgA8midsBJfZjsO1QideyPOMy3B5OfQmQnA MyU4m9feChbP9IjfSOXQfu9fYOWXwETnFCAYVtexPHj2B/fhiQxPHsr3+c/zgSylo5zU MQPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702410914; x=1703015714; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/7gN5mUSA5G/iZsU5OZR8MAq/IvcRZdbpcEx+Q1DdCY=; b=CITF+TNU5SogkCEA3c1tWfufmoK+eSImpORKT7o9T7MRnB9ls5wdjkwTalpQj8aIMf XtMcH3Ce7oeRBBBH/ouI8mi8gBR8wP0uLY6NaVOgz6cpOuWSF9BcudZ4ufWoz0RAyD74 Qnl6cmm74bcKhypdu0WB5G+Lvc562Ju0gKtKjlHXKepUJ3BZnMXYShQOClkmdD5IJeDs Ic1OZmtPJRVMRdlrKsfJKCYainARYaDDKvTUMqxzbWKKFueJ3rYeACxAajeWLo+vY5Zc 4r9TT0KnZUtvC2GenBIXvAx6qRo4FPqJsEYwKhkca3zXAt0RQ/u/jK6SjaeImDx06JY5 iw6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywg93ukjcZpIdxK0Etz21sEllJPuk4Myd0adJc6wswHGX348FF4 3qdpWR3OrfFyj6k3XPxk0NHcML/2fKr/lUPCy4faU3+T X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEwTaWr+zE9UoZBs6/BlFHJjNgUH9dNJYuRKiembTxjc13KjWKZY3du7j2PWUagiWYX3kIlcThZ6FtP5xFpyPs= X-Received: by 2002:a50:8e1d:0:b0:54c:87cc:3d02 with SMTP id 29-20020a508e1d000000b0054c87cc3d02mr2396483edw.22.1702410913613; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 11:55:13 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20231212160938.470C67E25858@ary.qy> <20231212194743.fa5320727a3f77b52978280d@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20231212194743.fa5320727a3f77b52978280d@sohara.org> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 14:55:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sendmail on 14-RELEASE To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SqTqR2DbJz4RsG On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 2:49=E2=80=AFPM Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 14:18:36 -0500 > Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > So this is a case where having a fully working (but local only) MTA is > > critical and DMA does not cut it! > > Why not, all DMA needs to send mail is a relay to send it to. See original question DMA does not offer SMTP which javamail requires nor does it correctly handle local aliases as proven in the original post. > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith > --=20 Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org