From nobody Tue Dec 12 19:47:21 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SqTfN1dmDz54LsP for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SqTfL6xC3z4GND for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:47:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=iecc.com header.s=131ad6578b8c9.k2312 header.b=01N0PrKM; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of johnl@iecc.com designates 2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=johnl@iecc.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=iecc.com Received: (qmail 78255 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2023 19:47:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; s=131ad6578b8c9.k2312; bh=2cXxQJ6jI7e+ZXFOn9c2tgfeXw92KGVi9CagJlnEY6M=; b=01N0PrKMNcTu/w7G0jqqCvamnLVXrSIr17VqZr5nsxfT05y83a8nKRSO6gCi6FpfBkwzW0+Eu6+m3RBBnztozlVGtGd4sjqSVSK3vGbKHaXD78w3cP8o5WKuhzucbuTz1DgMHKg61FEvtCiLWHsfcqwmXbN78+Mc34GY59NWlHtEBohi5jsu84ZgvgdS2NxrJ6oQN+AaXnTX4i0KTu+5ShTMXxhEqcrv/gkLBeTMGd25jpe54MIkfJYojNMLBjspY00eSfvL7e37l4oW/Zp8k+JtbTkqhrOUDckRZz/IXerWrUo1JDAtwRYmZu/t511d911dLfU0GnPjdtDqCKFCeQ== Received: from ary.local ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA CHACHA20-POLY1305 AEAD) via TCP6; 12 Dec 2023 19:47:21 -0000 Received: by ary.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id AF5467E27FE4; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 14:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ary.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6E87E27FC6; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 14:47:21 -0500 (EST) Date: 12 Dec 2023 14:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: <68490b1a-5b2e-cd54-349a-b86cca63e158@iecc.com> From: "John R. Levine" To: "Aryeh Friedman" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, wfdudley@gmail.com X-X-Sender: johnl@ary.local Subject: Re: Sendmail on 14-RELEASE In-Reply-To: References: <20231212160938.470C67E25858@ary.qy> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.89 / 15.00]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[iecc.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[iecc.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.40)[2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461:from,2001:470:1f07:1126:0:78:696d:6170:received]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[iecc.com:s=131ad6578b8c9.k2312]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:1f07:1126::/64]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[iecc.com:+]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[freebsd.org,gmail.com] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SqTfL6xC3z4GND X-Spamd-Bar: ------ >> Most freebsd machines are not used as mail servers. DMA is small and >> fast and adequate to handle mail from a stub system that might have a >> local mailbox or two and relays the rest of the mail to a smarthost. > > I would completely disagree that the machine I was asking about does > not use email at all except during manual and automatic testing of a > web app it is the main test/development machine it is for. Without > something that can *SEND* mail it is impossible to test this > functionality. ... As I said in the message you quoted, DMA sends mail anywhere you want by relaying it to a smarthost. I have virtual FreeBSD machines all over the place with DMA that mail me status reports. Perhaps this would be a good time to read the manual rather than guessing. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly