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List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: ZFS Root size keeps going down after upgrade to 13.2-release Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <8f3b445d-3f55-f359-ce5e-0d86c57755fe@optiplex-networks.com> <20230821130132.50aeb96b51b2b71efa14cb94@sohara.org> <8dbe0d99-ca94-998d-0c4e-27642db1b11a@optiplex-networks.com> <3f71983d-9f00-dddb-a05a-03b4322cb423@optiplex-networks.com> From: Kaya Saman In-Reply-To: <3f71983d-9f00-dddb-a05a-03b4322cb423@optiplex-networks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[optiplex-networks.com,quarantine]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[optiplex-networks.com:s=AE93A2AC-7F67-11EA-90AE-8A1FE64F6997]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[optiplex-networks.com:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:202596, ipnet:45.149.188.0/22, country:GB]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RTsdb0llyz3D8H On 8/21/23 13:32, Kaya Saman wrote: > > On 8/21/23 13:28, Graham Perrin wrote: >> On 21/08/2023 13:21, Kaya Saman wrote: >>> I think 'default' is the snapshot in use currently.=20 >> >> >> Initial orientation (you'll know this, already): >> >> bectl list | grep -e ' N' >> >> >> Try this, if you have not already: >> >> bectl list -s -c creation >> >> > > Thought I've been using FreeBSD and ZFS for years I have actually=20 > never used snapshots (in terms of having to work with them or manage=20 > them) so this is new for me.... > > > Outputs of commands: > > > bectl list | grep -e ' N' > default=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 NR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 /=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 88.5G 2018-08-07=20 > 02:53 > > > bectl list -s -c creation > BE/Dataset/Snapshot=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Active Mountpoint Space=20 > Created > > default > =C2=A0 zroot/ROOT/default=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 NR=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 / 88.5G=20 > 2018-08-07 02:53 > =C2=A0 default@2022-11-28-06:08:26-0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 583M=20 > 2022-11-28 06:08 > =C2=A0 default@2022-11-28-06:38:48-0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 11.4M=20 > 2022-11-28 06:38 > =C2=A0 default@2022-11-28-07:26:20-0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 9.41M=20 > 2022-11-28 07:26 > =C2=A0 default@2023-08-20-22:00:10-0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 34.5M=20 > 2023-08-20 22:00 > =C2=A0 default@2023-08-20-22:45:34-0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 9.55M=20 > 2023-08-20 22:45 > > 13.1-RELEASE-p5_2023-08-20_220010 > =C2=A0 zroot/ROOT/13.1-RELEASE-p5_2023-08-20_220010 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 8K 2023-08-20=20 > 22:00 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 zroot/ROOT/default@2023-08-20-22:00:10-0=C2=A0=C2=A0= -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 34.5M=20 > 2023-08-20 22:00 > > 13.2-RELEASE-p2_2023-08-20_224534 > =C2=A0 zroot/ROOT/13.2-RELEASE-p2_2023-08-20_224534 -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 - 8K 2023-08-20=20 > 22:45 > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 zroot/ROOT/default@2023-08-20-22:45:34-0=C2=A0=C2=A0= -=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - 9.55M=20 > 2023-08-20 22:45 > > Just wondering here but could it be tmpfs that's causing this? df -h Filesystem=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= 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