From nobody Tue Apr 18 15:33:21 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Q17HM1Z3xz45G6S for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 15:33:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx0.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Q17HL1lwKz4M1w for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 15:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=OsvUzcNp; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net Received: from fews01-sea.riseup.net (unknown [10.0.1.109]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Q17HB0n4dz9t07 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 15:33:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1681832006; bh=WOxpVYFwfj6DAfTgKVl2yfVbgfLM4O9PQg2Tm9AL7sM=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=OsvUzcNpEI9sjhVJ/bQ8uKo6xRAEfcr1UIBQe+QDmV7PnKJebLGgD+GBM+HMkPtL6 QS4qm9x4UJao7lhaXofmsK9MjxgKtCZzM7HVP/tbIL/tpib7pPiNIe6G9oQzWGpRrm I30t1/SsLdio2ZYvAEz3TcbVqBAOO02vkKeDGQ5A= X-Riseup-User-ID: AC46991500FF8557133E4A5837B02D80F242198DA80B35B15155086B499DDCDD Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews01-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Q17H93X7QzJqZY for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 15:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: Docker From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 17:33:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <20230412155252.5e38ea4728bd52dc798852fc@sohara.org> <1d0a7ed1-9330-49df-9b66-9ee4387de511@app.fastmail.com> <78F4160A-2D26-4A22-9139-A9132FC42688@ellael.org> <20230417133223.3ef5e26c.freebsd@edvax.de> <989A99FE-5DA3-4346-B886-32F8E64BA6F0@nimnet.asn.au> <8714f66b-cd2a-2dd3-67ba-9313522ee1b6@tundraware.com> <508110719.5095520.1681763487266@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx0.riseup.net]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.6:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Q17HL1lwKz4M1w X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, 2023-04-18 at 13:41 +0200, Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa wrote: > I think FreeBSD has some things to learn from Linux, though some > others I hope we never adopt. You can't have one without the other. When it comes to GUIs, for example, GTK misery creeps into FreeBSD with a slight delay at best.=20 FreeBSD is compliant to something useful, Linux never was compliant to it. This will not change. Another issue is that "software slows down faster than hardware speeds up". I have just put together a new computer, so I can keep two windows open at the same time tomorrow without the computer becoming a heater. Actually, my old computer is still in top order, only certain programs are no longer like that. I've always used the command line instead of a file manager, but to give two examples, you can hardly produce movies and music from the command line. I'm aware that several blind people use the command line to produce music, but maybe you get the point.