From nobody Tue Apr 18 11:41:21 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Q12Dv6WRHz44yn1 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 11:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x235.google.com (mail-lj1-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::235]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Q12Dv1f7bz3Knt for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 11:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-lj1-x235.google.com with SMTP id j11so17581129ljq.10 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 04:46:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1681818365; x=1684410365; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=cOGJV60oGobgGTkD44n4TeROeRW0ih4NCQUdIyfpjyY=; b=J+DtMLwMoJD+PZAnQ/JB4Eor25ORtR5ptwnYgxXQYe26YGNgpd8sMomDBJ8q6bHzOa p7kGr34Y3iZhkpzGzOj1VvqXMIYW0JryLWbPWxtmxlNlxShH1w5G6a4ohfNVXMzvXYin cBh9YJSp/kUZPjvCk3P5/ULe1oThXZI5HvMIAKe7GphBeIclMj4liJCPdb71ubp9RBaq 2Wxbf6uqEn/FKnvJELDz/dm2kcw5rAA1HPq6G7tGqyLVDdsehHennpeFfuDMOk/+ElzF RWhL21ZQqDY5gCo2h7mHcCQ7ALZfuLU9N4emNRhFmcpf4Gp1DE8DEvG2uEoRMZuibS1Z UX2A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1681818365; x=1684410365; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=cOGJV60oGobgGTkD44n4TeROeRW0ih4NCQUdIyfpjyY=; b=MNHiDprKjFz/+P8wFL/DaphqWtp2A/bg10PE68rrGPPQKw4XCurYyAN56nRWnNRZmE D+dUa3eIJHBqJ2hyo3B6RYxOkGATG/YNhkI+wsIuCey+LE6TzSja2496d0uQ6sKi5ZSb FIHK1OhGaYeEFBM1xzlE+BnYFo9IQS7PONC3vwhc5Dbfulp6NSbrw1JZaR8o0+eYs5qp KnZ40iLH1rGLWk6sDT6yTGXV3VGqnYhjvC70Hf/bzMSXzfCZHsaZM8+0aE9PmqA3vAt0 2kgTPWKWd7PtncJqlxp1l8naOy50ECpxe/6JbyERuMSZT7eyLv73cWZZoJpphygS8wfk GEyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9f+0RPsiv3kerEcLRCTWcP7QWsQNcNEW9Sm9/kFTGcn20ATEN9J ZhoDujKHweJwH+nCVK+LWo6W+hJyFdNdZz9lTWs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350YoOUGHO6LEk0AIQfsWnVyn2QNJasGtBkncZ1t9Ybk+3h1jTukM9OKX22AwDND5VKOA/VPZqHTaqt66bJ91qls= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9ac8:0:b0:2a7:6cdd:bdf5 with SMTP id p8-20020a2e9ac8000000b002a76cddbdf5mr738251ljj.6.1681818365323; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 04:46:05 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <20230412155252.5e38ea4728bd52dc798852fc@sohara.org> <1d0a7ed1-9330-49df-9b66-9ee4387de511@app.fastmail.com> <78F4160A-2D26-4A22-9139-A9132FC42688@ellael.org> <20230417133223.3ef5e26c.freebsd@edvax.de> <989A99FE-5DA3-4346-B886-32F8E64BA6F0@nimnet.asn.au> <8714f66b-cd2a-2dd3-67ba-9313522ee1b6@tundraware.com> <508110719.5095520.1681763487266@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=C3=ADa?= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 13:41:21 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Docker To: Mario Marietto Cc: Paul Pathiakis , questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003ded2505f99ada6e" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Q12Dv1f7bz3Knt X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --0000000000003ded2505f99ada6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:28=E2=80=AFPM Mario Marietto wrote: > I don't want it to die. I like freebsd more than linux. But I would also > like that more developers want to work on it to improve it and that some > areas were filled by more innovation. > FreeBSD is a volunteer project. That means developers work on what they find interesting. That might align with your view or it might not. At some point some people are paid to work on something even if it is not the most fun thing for them. But they have a contract so they have to honor it. The FreeBSD Foundation contracts people to work on certain areas they see the Project needs to improve at ( https://freebsdfoundation.org/open-positions/). For the rest, I'm afraid you would need to join the efforts of some projects that share your interests. I know some people would love to have docker on FreeBSD and maybe a group can be formed to work on that but as other people said, it is not easy to do so. Don't get me wrong, I think FreeBSD has some things to learn from Linux, though some others I hope we never adopt. > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:31=E2=80=AFPM Paul Pathiakis > wrote: > >> Just remember.... "BSD is going to die" How many times has that been >> said to people in the BSD communities? >> >> Still going strong since 1974... :D >> >> Paul >> >> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 12:05:32 PM PDT, Ian Smith < >> smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote: >> >> >> On 18 April 2023 3:01:55 am AEST, Tim Daneliuk >> wrote: >> >> > On 4/17/23 11:35, Ian Smith wrote: >> > > most would prefer to raise the average IQ >> >> > As an old, grumpy Boomer, I declare this to be so unlikely as to have >> > 0% probability of happening ;) >> >> >> As a possibly older and likely grumpier Boomer: Q.E.D <&^}=3D >> >> I could have tried the inverse: 'most would prefer not to lower the >> average IQ' but this topic demonstrates, if nothing else, the fruitlessn= ess >> of magical thinking. >> >> On the subject of FreeBSD's immanent demise, a little Australiana: >> >> "We'll all be rooned, said Hanrahan ..." >> >> http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/obrienj/poetry/hanrahan.html >> >> >> > > -- > Mario. > --0000000000003ded2505f99ada6e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:28=E2=80= =AFPM Mario Marietto <marietto= 2008@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't want it to die. I like freebsd m= ore than linux. But I would also like that more developers want to work on = it to improve it and that some areas were filled by more innovation.

FreeBSD is a volunteer project. That me= ans developers work on what they find interesting.
That might ali= gn with your view or it might not.

At some point s= ome people are paid to work on something even if it is not the most fun thi= ng for them. But they have a contract so they have to honor it.
T= he FreeBSD Foundation contracts people to work on certain areas they see th= e Project needs to improve at (https://freebsdfoundation.org/open-positions/).

For the rest, I'm afraid you would need to join the eff= orts of some projects that share your interests.
I know some peop= le would love to have docker on FreeBSD and maybe a group can be formed to = work on that but as other people said, it is not easy to do so.
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Don't get me wrong, I think FreeBSD has some things to le= arn from Linux, though some others I hope we never adopt.
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On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:31=E2=80=AFPM Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com> w= rote:
Just remember.... "BSD is going to die"= =C2=A0 How many times has that been said to people in the BSD communities?<= /div>

Still going strong since 1= 974... :D=C2=A0=C2=A0

Paul=

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On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 12:05:32 PM PDT, Ian Smith= <smithi@nimne= t.asn.au> wrote:


On 18 April 2023 3:01:55 am AEST, Tim= Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote:

> On 4/17/23 11:35, Ian Smith wrote:
&= gt; > most would prefer to raise the average IQ

> As an old, grumpy Boomer, I declare this to be so unlike= ly as to have
> 0% probability of happening ;)
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As a possibly older and likely grumpie= r Boomer: Q.E.D=C2=A0 <&^}=3D

I= could have tried the inverse: 'most would prefer not to lower the aver= age IQ' but this topic demonstrates, if nothing else, the fruitlessness= of magical thinking.

On the subject o= f FreeBSD's immanent demise, a little Australiana:
"We'll all be rooned, said Hanrahan ..."

http://www.middlemiss.org/lit/authors/obrienj/poetry/hanrahan.= html




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