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Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:34:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:34:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Pathiakis To: FreeBSD Mailing List , Tim Daneliuk Message-ID: <1096316421.4975742.1681752853038@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <8714f66b-cd2a-2dd3-67ba-9313522ee1b6@tundraware.com> References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <20230412155252.5e38ea4728bd52dc798852fc@sohara.org> <1d0a7ed1-9330-49df-9b66-9ee4387de511@app.fastmail.com> <78F4160A-2D26-4A22-9139-A9132FC42688@ellael.org> <20230417133223.3ef5e26c.freebsd@edvax.de> <989A99FE-5DA3-4346-B886-32F8E64BA6F0@nimnet.asn.au> <8714f66b-cd2a-2dd3-67ba-9313522ee1b6@tundrawar e.com> Subject: Re: Docker List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4975741_1665328277.1681752853036" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21365 YMailNorrin X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Q0Z156q6Xz44Kr X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N ------=_Part_4975741_1665328277.1681752853036 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ROFL. Personally, I haven't see it yet.=C2=A0 Again, I hated getting a CS degree.= =C2=A0 It was hell on wheels and kept running me over.=C2=A0 The incredible= amount of math, automata theory, etc, etc.Then, I got out in the 'real wor= ld'.=C2=A0 I was thoroughly shocked at how people casually threw aside crit= ical thinking, design, implementation, project planning, software engineeri= ng paradigms, and started to 'program' 10 years after I got out.=C2=A0=C2= =A0 I would look at simple scripts for error checking and proper 'results retur= n' from function... NOTHING.=C2=A0 "Well, it's just a script, who cares?" Problem... it carried into their programming practices as well.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Heck, when I was looking at the Assembler functions of two chips (had to be= able to learn pointers and registers etc if you were going to use K&R C) i= n our Assembler class.=C2=A0 One was just plain horrible and the other was = almost magical in the way it worked..... Professor asked which was superior= ... 'magical one'.... "Yes, that's Motorola's 68000 series".....=C2=A0 "Pro= fessor, what's the junky one?"=C2=A0 "Oh that's iNtel...."=C2=A0 Look at wh= ere we are now? Sometimes, people think due to market share and advertising, that something= is superior.=C2=A0 However, when you have a solid knowledge base (I can't = possibly explain to people how many times 'THEORY' has come to my rescue to= come up with a creative solution to a daunting problem and allow me to ste= er clear of pitfalls) and CONTINUE TO LEARN, you can actually form an INTEL= LIGENT decision.=C2=A0 However, taking shortcuts, asking people to spoon fe= ed you the answers.... that's like trying to cheat on exams as you go throu= gh life....=C2=A0 You never learn and you really never will. Paul On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 10:02:57 AM PDT, Tim Daneliuk wrote: =20 =20 On 4/17/23 11:35, Ian Smith wrote: > most would prefer to raise the average IQ As an old, grumpy Boomer, I declare this to be so unlikely as to have 0% pr= obability of happening ;) =20 ------=_Part_4975741_1665328277.1681752853036 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ROFL.

Pers= onally, I haven't see it yet.  Again, I hated getting a CS degree.&nbs= p; It was hell on wheels and kept running me over.  The incredible amo= unt of math, automata theory, etc, etc.
Then, I got out in the 'real world'.  I was thoroughly shoc= ked at how people casually threw aside critical thinking, design, implement= ation, project planning, software engineering paradigms, and started to 'pr= ogram' 10 years after I got out.  

I would look= at simple scripts for error checking and proper 'results return' from func= tion... NOTHING.  "Well, it's just a script, who cares?"

Problem... it carried into their programming practices as well. &= nbsp;

Heck, when I was looking at the Assembler functions= of two chips (had to be able to learn pointers and registers etc if you we= re going to use K&R C) in our Assembler class.  One was just plain= horrible and the other was almost magical in the way it worked..... Profes= sor asked which was superior... 'magical one'.... "Yes, that's Motorola's 6= 8000 series".....  "Professor, what's the junky one?"  "Oh that's= iNtel...."  Look at where we are now?

Sometimes, pe= ople think due to market share and advertising, that something is superior.=   However, when you have a solid knowledge base (I can't possibly expl= ain to people how many times 'THEORY' has come to my rescue to come up with= a creative solution to a daunting problem and allow me to steer clear of p= itfalls) and CONTINUE TO LEARN, you can actually form an INTELLIGENT decisi= on.  However, taking shortcuts, asking people to spoon feed you the an= swers.... that's like trying to cheat on exams as you go through life....&n= bsp; You never learn and you really never will.

Paul

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On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 10:02:57 AM PDT, Tim Danel= iuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote:


On 4/17/23 11:35, Ian Smith wrote:
> most would prefer to raise the average IQ


As an old, grumpy Boomer, I declare this to be so = unlikely as to have 0% probability of happening ;)


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