From nobody Mon Apr 17 12:38:34 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Q0RSB6dqRz45qt1 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 12:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4fe0004df38f2.0dbfa92caacb1c36b53d51eea471df9e@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Q0RSB3LcKz3vS5 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 12:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4fe0004df38f2.0dbfa92caacb1c36b53d51eea471df9e@email-od.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1681735130; x=1684327130; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=W9uoz2NSHCWJQvI0YTZoPiX7WomaTNLFNzkgJKT/4I8=; b=v3rQCB6t0sslcoiCkDohSeSJuAbwDEwYdCCpIGB0S9pn/NJQCzZVfUHhT+RBQ/vA5Txj+qkD7hWz7sWdkKZuTmrkMfJRbOmLjGOLaWUi4My8/BkKOleec8cVmuax/0tjma3RXIZx3bE8TX43j/HAepNL6QMJmtFXotoUCTBYNZM= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRmZTAwMDRkZjM4ZjIuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.h.in.socketlabs.com (r2.h.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.180.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:38:37 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (86-42-20-118-dynamic.b-ras1.bdt.dublin.eircom.net [86.42.20.118]) by r2.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:38:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.95 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1poO7u-0005JE-Ht; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 13:38:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 13:38:34 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Hosney Osman Cc: Miguel C , Paul Pathiakis , Mario Marietto , Alejandro Imass , Tim Preston , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Docker Message-Id: <20230417133834.7390cda7174b57085e828562@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <543289768.3317542.1681394425362@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Q0RSB3LcKz3vS5 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 11:03:13 +0000 Hosney Osman wrote: > Hi all. > My point of view is > We need to develop freebsd and make every thing available in freebsd to > be able compit with linux My point of view is freebsd deserve to be the There is a false assumption embedded there - I don't think that anyone in the FreeBSD core wants to compete with Linux, Windows or anything else. Based purely on my experience of FreeBSD over the last thirty years they are far more interested in providing a world class *unix* on commodity hardware and they're doing a *great* job of it IMHO. There's more than a little truth in the old saw: If you hate Windows: Linux If you love unix: BSD Personally I'm happy with that, not that it makes any difference. > best distribution to be used in server edition Lets create road map for > FreeBSD development lets port everything from linux And we need our own > invitation technology Throw in everything from Windows, OS-X and Z-OS while you're at it if you want to make the ultimate do-everything OS then you could probably do a lot worse than starting with FreeBSD but expect to need to do a lot of work that nobody is currently doing, which means expect to need to create a new project and developer pool to get the job done because these are not the goals of the FreeBSD project or any other project currently in existence. Go for it, it's a free world. When there's something set up come back here and see if you can attract some developers to the project. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith