From nobody Mon Apr 17 04:28:45 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Q0Db069T0z45JBT for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 04:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walterp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x22b.google.com (mail-oi1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Q0Db02bb9z418V for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2023 04:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from walterp@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-oi1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id d1so5807408oiw.13 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 21:29:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1681705737; x=1684297737; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=0CAWxoUGY9WVYMtTXe9yBbSfhI3yyAbCNsXM7SL4cwI=; b=qCTv+hsUTVztU2ocySKYvxE917OmtooGTNX6Ub+wNuNvVmjyePe3jQznspbn0SsOwc OmpiFJf+kdnWToCT0wEWGlvsdCHgCh4FJhN0I9svQFa71pULj1QetihdnTF19puT21Ie 3cP3DiqjWQCMnQXh4ABuCpJehCuMU8Cdm4cGUNwD3SiUTlLFYTHdJkHkb/0S7Lbb+8S1 Qga8fX7huIqXIucYKv7GSO5vLDPTDCQPRmV4JND9wq8zjGrs8pvYbt5QLRpPnvr9Pcc5 1VqBBesTrhIKe5FaeuAFbejmSGG9XJwfT3oa3ljso1I07QKnexkZUqT2N/XfOl+Joe5T /OIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1681705737; x=1684297737; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=0CAWxoUGY9WVYMtTXe9yBbSfhI3yyAbCNsXM7SL4cwI=; b=arBIdtft883Rypdy/b1xUu5a18nITnu4SuEyGjdmT2hGX9pE3lqoU7VJ5q2PdzZ4Dn nirixEPQyztha5mFuS2aIzrt1R361GtTEDlqsMa/LBHsmjYXhiUYU61RMQb4gZlTNtyO RgpgCDy28fBW4fsCJ6j3leE8MnwCJlPCrFEQ9nQ0koErOoh/XdrSCwxrW4HQhzyYkJnP 7OoNpbN+hsEhshvbKI05NgQUaZcdO/HoRhl75JMzXUwxrFLSsl7aiu7Ypk8+DDjxubLK HVqC/YTqNDyHv8gszK14uoT85oq4AURLHGrYWJhomCU0yiB/Pgql8sfEJu6mpT1wypGD D3Rg== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9draqxn2qYZxNTJQvyUiNYrw0oio16bNsAGUz4994BwIo2SfbXR xpUkFBo1aCZQG/uEbbbIgi6RjZ5AsbxLYcdttUr9XZqd X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350bxhbslQ7blkwsdnaFq6qHX71ZjEKE8PZHiSNNNVIot9cVW1BEsY7WklOP2gnMxopbpPYdK6ULINNpTWKj9Plo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:d8:b0:389:95ac:61b1 with SMTP id t24-20020a05680800d800b0038995ac61b1mr2652712oic.7.1681705737221; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 21:28:57 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <20230412150350.12f97eb2c9dd566b8c8702d2@sohara.org> <1535315680.2770963.1681309684072@mail.yahoo.com> <20230412155252.5e38ea4728bd52dc798852fc@sohara.org> <1d0a7ed1-9330-49df-9b66-9ee4387de511@app.fastmail.com> <8f3a86806377c2c92039eaf2765f5b85862de178.camel@riseup.net> <858859542.4652196.1681696294734@mail.yahoo.com> <92f6a9df-fd1e-9411-6093-fc8a145add17@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <92f6a9df-fd1e-9411-6093-fc8a145add17@tundraware.com> From: Walter Parker Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 21:28:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Docker To: Tim Daneliuk Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000157cee05f980a199" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Q0Db02bb9z418V X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000157cee05f980a199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Go try to find a mainstream cloud vendor with a standard BSD image > available. The only one I ever found > was Digital Ocean and they're relatively small. > Does AWS count as a major cloud vendor? If you look at the OS catalog for EC2 images, they have all versions of 12 and 13. Last time I looked , they have all of the Betas and RCs for 13.2, which is more than they have for Ubuntu. Also, the number two cloud vendor submitted kernel patches to the FreeBSD project so that it would work better on Microsoft=E2=80=99s hypervi= sor. See https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/linux/freebsd-intr= o-on-azure To see what Azure supports w.r.t. FreeBSD. Also, Colin has been doing great with Amazon to get support for the new Amazon cloud hardware into FreeBSD. Most other cloud vendors are small (maybe medium) as compared to AWS and Azure. Walter --=20 The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. 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Go try to find a mainstream cloud vendor with a standard BSD ima= ge available.=C2=A0 The only one I ever found
was Digital Ocean and they= 're relatively small.

Does AWS count as a major cloud vendor? If you look at the OS catalog= for EC2 images, they have all versions of 12 and 13. Last time I looked , = they have all of the Betas and RCs for 13.2, which is more than they have f= or Ubuntu. Also, the number two cloud vendor submitted kernel patches to th= e FreeBSD project so that it would work better on Microsoft=E2=80=99s hyper= visor. =C2=A0

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To see what Azure supports w.r.t. FreeBSD.

Also,=C2=A0Colin has been do= ing great with Amazon to get support for the new Amazon cloud hardware into= =C2=A0FreeBSD.

Most other cloud ven= dors are small (maybe medium) as compared to AWS and Azure.


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The greatest dangers to liberty lur= k in insidious encroachment by men=C2=A0of zeal, well-meaning but without u= nderstanding. =C2=A0 -- Justice Louis D.=C2=A0Brandeis
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