From nobody Sun Apr 16 16:40:39 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PzwtP6y7Pz45fZS for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marietto2008@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PzwtP1bD4z3lxw for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marietto2008@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com with SMTP id n193so993795ybf.12 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 09:41:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1681663276; x=1684255276; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=h4LD5qtREHFcuE4YlyjLUvvnigEjHtNE99SI8NPMQ34=; b=ThA/LjlRkL2URSD3l/S7h+LBusvhLpnGB5c+guLI8uCnfMUiKEATRyIltjpXB59ge3 x50T1c3MjzfJuR0MpYiXnGJJ6liOgxtRnOJEqE/vH6KanQ36IVKz8TcQTriytKOEJ1ao hKjGu+kjMwsPoaIB0kxomYg7nzCfQJEwNLoYQl72cABcN0xkaIyarKguRg4X5WV1KCE4 T2UVGfdSnAKL+3robQvVrVel6Xdb/bf+JUAqmY/mj7TIdBFcKi8cjWI8pFpuls6ziDFX e3m+mrxD9bsLMxyPJeYMEj66g119x5cskYBI+hyR/d+rw2VAsT6gKuZdlvXd5CTHG3Ic Yoxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1681663276; x=1684255276; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=h4LD5qtREHFcuE4YlyjLUvvnigEjHtNE99SI8NPMQ34=; b=NCpSdHUiLW0KDsaNiRWZwLPAtJorhGCRvPf6FRo2RWToM+H1OdIX+/zRJSkGbexbap FKfjA3FDxouCvdDr4lJmos1rul2dJ0bHNDF73jqqqjRo6pcysfYStStJk/UfD8NTklXz lCjh4/y8ck1AKwygGo1mASNpnfefC9S8oC+jz58X6L9xqPO9n6eq6PueyzbqcSA2utak lfoyB77qE2bU5b1SUIOzLC60j0cCp4Gi8mjiDCqnc/ylxh7zwOtAIkBXYAMC6h4xK6MG 6muFjgLh8qKGIImUmb4WTHWlGMe3DFHu+yIeH/UjoPRrQWJTCpP/Fi5scCekr9jsPxzG ZETA== X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9d3y8oxYMyYAACNf7rdDGsSDxwhJcdm9UDDFoMXFwEMe3SCEi8T 6ekmo1phWRNWonCdeCv+75i8bZ/a/AlZyVttgrADIWHfTe74Qw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AKy350Zvb/J8e4qNhhqlLmFdHwOe6ilNjXjJ0SZCaCr8sHb/sVONoB1oNNPWH5NcOzP2HDA7lq8vF+zKHDUwx/0r8Rs= X-Received: by 2002:a25:dad2:0:b0:b8f:4696:8fa1 with SMTP id n201-20020a25dad2000000b00b8f46968fa1mr8030740ybf.10.1681663276383; Sun, 16 Apr 2023 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230329053443.6ADA6B6AFED5@dhcp-8e64.meeting.ietf.org> <8E16D624-2655-4A10-844A-93E4F63E9859@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <078a1cf8-7ae2-c593-615b-f5f37fa2b3eb@timpreston.net> <06be3a1e-9319-1a21-88b9-4f87328ee127@timpreston.net> <34b4b76e-1c41-4cfb-9e86-856f01e8abc9@app.fastmail.com> <6002f636-310b-a9fd-b82f-346618976983@timpreston.net> <9efb1204ede36008eb1bc83b6048d9c41ea2ab86.camel@riseup.net> <6cbc4a9e-bbb0-bedb-2941-9511c4232312@tundraware.com> <6dabf603dcaea28c2ab3389d13505c70314c0e70.camel@riseup.net> In-Reply-To: From: Mario Marietto Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:40:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Docker To: Tim Daneliuk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000038834705f976beaf" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PzwtP1bD4z3lxw X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --00000000000038834705f976beaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sure that Docker on freebsd can be implemented using partially the freebsd technology (under the hood) and partially the linux technology (out of the hood,like the syntax of the commands and copying its look and feel,I mean the pleasure of using it. At least I felt this pleasure and looking at how much popular Docker became during the years,I think that a lot of users felt that pleasure. To be honest I think that the jails are a more solid technology than the docker one,but they lack the same immediacy in knowing how to use them and ease of use. On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 6:35=E2=80=AFPM Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 4/16/23 10:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 10:04 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> My point is that these extra pieces of tooling are not really "layers" > >> such much as ways to manage running containers at large scale. They > >> are not needed or recommend for smaller use cases. > > > > Hi, > > > > my apologies for my half-knowledge, I was probably a little too biased. > > I'm that biased since nowadays even Linux packages are often replaced b= y > > containers (snap, flatpak etc.). > > > > Regards, > > Ralf > > > > > > You might want to play around with that 'dockersand' tooling I wrote > linked in a prior message. It's a pretty painless way to experience > docker and has a lot of learning value, I think. > > --=20 Mario. --00000000000038834705f976beaf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sure that Docker on freebsd can be implemented usi= ng partially the freebsd technology (under the hood) and partially the linu= x technology (out of the hood,like the syntax of the commands and copying i= ts look and feel,I mean the pleasu= re of using it. At least I felt this pleasure and looking at how much popul= ar Docker became during the years,I think that a lot of users felt that ple= asure. To be honest I think that the jails are a more solid technology than= the docker one,but they lack the same immediacy in knowing how to use them and ease of use.


On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 6:35=E2=80=AFPM Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote:
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On 4/16/23 10:51, Ra= lf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 10:04 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>> My point is that these extra pieces of tooling are not really &quo= t;layers"
>> such much as ways to manage running containers at large scale.=C2= =A0 They
>> are not needed or recommend for smaller use cases.
>
> Hi,
>
> my apologies for my half-knowledge, I was probably a little too biased= .
> I'm that biased since nowadays even Linux packages are often repla= ced by
> containers (snap, flatpak etc.).
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
>

You might want to play around with that 'dockersand' tooling I wrot= e
linked in a prior message.=C2=A0 It's a pretty painless way to experien= ce
docker and has a lot of learning value, I think.



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