Re: concerns about install freebsd

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 12:16 AM Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:08 PM jian he wrote:
> > I asked the question about "freebsd graphic text editor". The question
> is stupid.
>
> No stupid questions, just stupid answers :-)
>
> Long story short, FreeBSD is Unix, but this is not a Linux, its a
> different operating system with different kernel and applications are
> not really one-to-one compatible from a binary standpoint.. however
> FreeBSD can emulate Linux ELF binaries and when all other dependencies
> are met Linux application binaries can work on FreeBSD.
>
> The biggest difference is in philosophy and approach to changes and
> long term maintenance. Linux is an example of "Enforced Changes"^TM
> ideology even when that makes it self-incompatible in short and long
> term. Linux also does not conform to standards as much as FreeBSD (and
> other BSD) does, usually you will notice things stop working in Linux
> after update, there are compatibility problems between different
> versions of the same Linux distributions, etc, etc. FreeBSD on the
> other hand comes from Unix and is created by people who actually use
> it themselves in serious commercial applications that must be
> maintainable in a long periods of time.
>
> The difference between Linux and BSD can be easily noticed in the
> product that they power: Linux -> Google Android (constant changes,
> updates, every Android is different), BSD -> iOS (looks and works the
> same on different devices, mostly focused on the result of the person
> using it).
>
> Some people prefer BSD some people prefer Linux. "Apples and
> Oranges"^TM but you should use both to make conscious decision and
> know exactly why. Some people even use both Linux and BSD depending on
> the task.
>
>
> > The real questions for me(don't want waste too much time on install)
> would be:
> > I already installed linux, any external pan drive needs to install
> freebsd?
>
> In the first step just create a VirtualBox machine, install it, create
> a snapshot, and see how this works. If anything goes wrong you can
> simply rollback a snapshot and you will not loose any real data.
>
>
> >  Can I install linux and freebsd in the same machine (I think it's intel
> x86 architecture)? If so, can I switch it easily, just use the shortcut key
> then switch to another system.
>
> Yes, you can use them on a separate disks, you can use all of them on one
> disk.
>
>
> >  How long does it take to install freebsd(all settings default, ignore
> internet speed) (I like to first make it work, then try to understand the
> system internals).
>
> At first you install "The Base System" so it is common starting point
> for everyone. Going from that you can install whatever you need by
> using `pkg` program or the source tree of the all available packages
> you can choose from located at `/usr/ports` called "The FreeBSD
> Ports".
>
>
> > If all things are pretty easy to set, can you give an authoritative
> video link? (in case I fail, I can follow through) I know there are many
> youtube tutorials, but I obviously don't know which one is right.
>
> There is a great book and its called "The FreeBSD Handbook" all
> information should be there:
>
> https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/
>
>
> Keep in mind that the BSD Unix systems is mostly for the advanced and
> aware users. You start from a base system that you can customize to be
> a network router, network server, application server, desktop
> workstation, dedicated embedded system, etc, but you will have do to
> it yourself. There is no "one click to fit everyone" approach in
> FreeBSD.
>
> If you want to try out the BSD from a pendrive with already
> preinstalled Xorg + Window Manager you may also want to try NomadBSD
> (that is using FreeBSD base):
>
> https://nomadbsd.org/
>
> Virtual Machine seems to be the best way to safely play and try out
> various things safely.
>
> Have fun! :-)
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>

I successfully installed oracle virtualbox.
Then landed on this site:
https://freebsdfoundation.org/freebsd-project/resourcesold/installing-freebsd-with-virtualbox/
then I choose 13.1:
https://download.freebsd.org/releases/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/13.1/

Now, which one should I choose: bootonly.iso or disc.iso or dvd1.iso?