Re: Posting netiquette: HTML, attachments etc.

From: Walter Parker <walterp_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 18:18:49 UTC
So, utf-8 is good, posting to multiple lists is bad (but ok when you do
it), what about the original post? He was asking about HTML. UTF-8 != HTML.
UTF is a character encoding format. It is supported by most email clients
and does not require HTML for support.


Walter

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 2:56 AM Michael Gmelin <grembo@freebsd.org> wrote:

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> On 26. Jun 2022, at 09:37, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
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> https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-doc/blob/main/documentation/content/en/books/handbook/eresources/_index.adoc
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> FreeBSD Handbook: Appendix C: updates and corrections
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> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=264754
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> I'm glad that HTML is supported.
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> No, people should not be sending HTML emails to lists.
> Consult history of email netiquettes to discover the many why's.
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> Also, I want support for things such as PNG.
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> Attachments are not necessarily against such netiquettes,
> but rightly tend to be administratively size limited.
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> What is the possibility of getting the/a "netiquette" link in
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> the FreeBSD Mailinglist footer that is already appended to all
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> the messages?
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> There is no such footer appended to the lists, because they're bloat.
> Their aims usually better done at first via signup, in quarterly, and
> via the occaisional involuntary and accepted friendly cluebat.
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> we are dealing with real people working with the email
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> clients available to them in 2022
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> Same arguments was made in 1982 1992 2002 etc, and the netiquette
> won validity for good reasons and is still taught trained and disciplined.
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> Trying to stop people from using UTF-8 is futile. Also, quoting various
> arguments from different people without context is bad style - I gave very
> specific examples, including the fact that a lot of email is written on
> mobile devices where people don’t have control over many aspects of how
> things are sent and I argued which parts of netiquette could/should still
> be followed given the realities of today and where we need to relax if we
> want to have communication happen on our mailing lists.
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> My answer here is an example of that - there is no reasonable way to
> follow any line length limits on a phone and it also automatically chooses
> the typographically correct UTF-8 characters, even though I would prefer to
> use ASCII - but there is no way I’ll change every single "‘" to "'"
> manually or disable the features that make typing on such a device an
> acceptable experience. Just won’t happen.
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> If your email client and/or your desktop can’t handle UTF-8, it’s time to
> fix your setup.
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> -m
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> p.s. Is it really necessary to have this discussion on multiple lists?
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