From nobody Thu Dec 09 14:27:52 2021 X-Original-To: ppc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D4918D8374 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luporl@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J8xGD3QcJz4m1j for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luporl@freebsd.org) Received: from mail-oi1-f174.google.com (mail-oi1-f174.google.com [209.85.167.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: luporl/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 519B98239 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luporl@freebsd.org) Received: by mail-oi1-f174.google.com with SMTP id m6so8932899oim.2 for ; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 06:28:04 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5307D4IyA+ws73ytD2luDAE1Um6fmDnXmbCTiboiDC8ShWMm2CHn v/CNuZoeCD3oApMl1Im1Lnz6/ZDSR6O5y/NCFrY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwcG0Ndic/hzu8iPm8jvqzBnbPdjvaGg5jRJ0gu7uWn/mUtmGKk8rjsjgBEjyouqKvUTQgMrQeZxkCX6uOwmAM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:2cc:: with SMTP id a12mr6105456oid.126.1639060083613; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 06:28:03 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ppc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <703b88fd-87dd-f79b-d154-7cfbad106a92@blastwave.org> In-Reply-To: <703b88fd-87dd-f79b-d154-7cfbad106a92@blastwave.org> From: luporl Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 11:27:52 -0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Question about the old PowerMac G5 quad To: dclarke@blastwave.org Cc: ppc@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000ca71105d2b76aa8" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1639060084; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=eCATgb+b3Eu30OFVr+fwLk5N4nU4zVjFw9GmocHNkSc=; b=P0F9L83TocnetkuZwtC6MJ2WzJpDBoqyRgkVFHmkKuG9sP5vcI5Inh5cGTr4kG9s4SYNTW 24Mb7StSZbsRJZNZfmUWq+UgSJS6BxOPcCC2b1N8UFeVHoePaFDeAikVU2PyhBvT1HSKJv SvWt3z0poD1rSa44iurYLZ2RpEWAqEEnoXSh7bwSFwAc/veTMz0H2nj0QwuIWIjEuTFY8e XLNIvnnDQUYjil4Td7LFrh25/9azNvuD3AsxYre8opq3pboQcphbeAvSLub5Z8h3/3ctEv FiGkL3/3eEq7eESyUa+lSnXhEzPQVrrV4NZPp6PiGthHDfcJoefve4MrhKUqvg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1639060084; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=HNoyV3bMKwVYQSI0N2oGUZQQsiuBFhCXycl0Js3qNkdjbMd1mHNaP5Ao7Ib3TGY2OmTp3B 8h8Vnl9WBURGEjK2pbnf35V7Woob4uTtUEQQiBnqq/6QvrYGca5XHoAvt+hfjm6OkvbswA IFrW1ENh1Z5XsbJuNj/fa3KlYn8vxjyjqeEeO9/0GVUoZ+GBhKKJQk7pC21ZgVTzDmi5GG cc84pQyTivCUDioKAZbBTtb1olsTyjZO/S8FBOWWhK9mESVqv4rOh3smuBe3MVhT2j/V8l 3FS3A54MF1dGu2HunD0UX6A8wsmKEXHTQTu34zYlpgC7ZD47pYwHDSj5PAUHUA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y --0000000000000ca71105d2b76aa8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 10:23 AM Dennis Clarke via ppc wrote: > > Dear ppc64 folks : > > I have not tried FreeBSD CURRENT on anything ppc64 in a long while > and was just curious what the state of affairs is like. Last time I did > try running on my old PowerMac Quad G5 there were plenty of itty bitty > little issues and more than a few big ones. Namely SMP is disabled. That > was a show stopper. Another question would be, from your experience, > what is the best hardware to run with? Something POWER8? The amazing > Raptor Talos II wonderful POWER9 machines? Any feedback would be a joy > as I do see ppc is still Tier2 and that fascinates me given how valuable > the IBM POWER world is within industry. > > Hello, I guess Raptor Talos II gives the best ppc64 experience, as it probably has the most users, considering recent hardware only. I was able to run Xfce on it reasonably well, with onboard VGA (LE works best here, as BE has some color issues, but there are patches for some of them). Blackbird and S812L (POWER8) work well with CURRENT or 13-RELEASE too. The main problem I had with S812L was its IPR storage controller, for which there are no drivers. I ended up using a PCI-e AHCI adapter with an external SATA disk to work around this. > -- > Dennis Clarke > RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC > UNIX and Linux spoken > GreyBeard and suspenders optional > > --0000000000000ca71105d2b76aa8--