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Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:56:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.11.0-alpha0-300-gdee1775a43-fm-20240315.001-gdee1775a List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <883C5440-68BE-4ECC-9CB6-E30253E931C9@freebsd.org> References: <496936f9-b925-4dd4-9e86-6220088fb964@app.fastmail.com> <883C5440-68BE-4ECC-9CB6-E30253E931C9@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 17:56:27 +0000 From: void To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposed ports deprecation and removal policy Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.94 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[f-m.fm,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[f-m.fm:s=fm1,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:103.168.172.128/27]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.15)[0.150]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[103.168.172.155:from]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209242, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:US]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[f-m.fm]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[f-m.fm]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[f-m.fm:+,messagingengine.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Txphx3SrSz4Y2l On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, at 10:28, Michael Gmelin wrote: > Seriously, the =E2=80=9Cother=E2=80=9D tree would rot in no time, this= is not practical=20 > (it=E2=80=99s also interesting how the discussion moved from =E2=80=98= ports=20 > unmaintained upstream=E2=80=99 to =E2=80=98ports without a maintainer=E2= =80=99).=20 Look at it another way: how come something like it *is* practical=20 for other OSes (including distros)? > If the goal is to have a pure system nobody uses, please go ahead. The "goal" would be to have a reasonably up-to-date, and as vuln-free as can be reasonably attained, freebsd system that uses the "maintained" port tree. > I (still) think an approach where `pkg audit`warns about unmaintained=20 > ports (and ports without an upstream maintainer), maybe even having=20 > config options that prevent the installation of such ports - which=20 > could be on by default - would be a way to allow people to make=20 > informed decisions without removing these ports from the tree. That's a good idea. --=20