From nobody Sun Mar 10 20:45:16 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TtBkR64d9z5CqQ0 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 20:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from mail.rdtc.ru (mail.rdtc.ru [62.231.190.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TtBkR0FXFz4RMW for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2024 20:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=grosbein.net (policy=none); spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eugen@grosbein.net does not designate 62.231.190.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eugen@grosbein.net Received: by mail.rdtc.ru (RDTC Post Office Server, from userid 1000) id 7A7A41CEF8; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 03:45:25 +0700 (+07) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: egrosbein@rdtc.ru) by mail.rdtc.ru (RDTC Post Office Server) with ESMTPSA id 456E01CC48; Mon, 11 Mar 2024 03:45:24 +0700 (+07) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: flo@FreeBSD.org Received: from [10.58.0.10] (dadvw [10.58.0.10]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPS id 42AKjMxw031299 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 11 Mar 2024 03:45:23 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: Proposed ports deprecation and removal policy To: Florian Smeets , ports@freebsd.org References: <435edf7c-a956-4317-b327-3372de70dbef@FreeBSD.org> From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <1c5b7818-842f-f7b8-9d4e-5bf681cad20e@grosbein.net> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 03:45:16 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <435edf7c-a956-4317-b327-3372de70dbef@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM, NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_PASS,T_DATE_IN_FUTURE_96_Q,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Report: * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 0.0 T_DATE_IN_FUTURE_96_Q Date: is 4 days to 4 months after Received: * date * -0.0 T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE No description available. * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains * -2.1 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on eg.sd.rdtc.ru X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.98 / 15.00]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.982]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[grosbein.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[eugen]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29072, ipnet:62.231.184.0/21, country:RU]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TtBkR0FXFz4RMW 29.02.2024 2:22, Florian Smeets wrote: > This policy should give some guidance on when ports can or should be removed. In general ports should not be removed without reason but if a port blocks progress it should be deprecated and subsequently removed. In general, if a ports blocks progress for some time it will be removed so that progress can be made. For more details see below. > > > Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is met: > > - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original source/mirror > (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do not count as "available") > - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months [skip] > A port can be deprecated and subsequently removed if: > > - Upstream declared the version EOL or officially stopped development. > DEPRECATED should be set as soon as the planned removal date is know. Objection to quoted reasons. A software not developed anymore but still works fine after years is best software ever. Do not touch it, please. Some examples: mail/qpopper abadoned by Qualcomm years ago russian/d1489 created by ache@ who passed away years ago net/quagga abadonware but still best OSPF implementation for FreeBSD kernel net-im/pidgin-manualsize abadoned by initial author years ago databases/oracle8-client the only known library to link native FreeBSD code with for OracleDB connection Do not "fix" what ain't broken. Eugene