From nobody Tue Jun 25 20:11:56 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4W7wwM6nf5z5Pwg0 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4W7wwM3XkRz4QZS for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Catflap-Envelope-From: X-Catflap-Envelope-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 45PKBue2050184; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:11:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 45PKBuSF050183; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:11:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202406252011.45PKBuSF050183@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:11:56 +0100 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: franco@lastsummer.de, 000.fbsd@quip.cz Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd@omnilan.de Subject: Re: git: 0668752 Revert "Framework: Introduce bsd.sponsor.mk" References: <088ebbb6-bd7f-4167-964f-9aa83d36c5e0@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]); Tue, 25 Jun 2024 21:11:56 +0100 (BST) X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:7400::/38, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4W7wwM3XkRz4QZS Franco Fichtner wrote: > I also agree that ports should be for ports building. The makefile framework is very good. Why risk it by wedging packages over ports? I know this isn't proposed, but if, hypothetically, packages becomes the only option, I'll be switching to manually installing from tarballs. > Still one of the biggest issue is a shortage of committers. Not that there is a shortage of submissions. But having less committers makes it easier to enforce arbitrary rules by the inside circles. Yep. There are some great port committers, and it's a tireless job, but we need more. The ports-politics I've noticed over the last few years is ridiculous, as are the hoops you need to go through to get port updates committed. Offers of help have fallen on deaf ears, so presumably help isn't required?