From nobody Fri Jan 12 23:43:47 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TBdR942vbz56fkk for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 23:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:7400:8808:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TBdR92smsz4yTD for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 23:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Catflap-Envelope-From: Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 40CNhm1U004230; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 23:43:48 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 40CNhl1K004229; Fri, 12 Jan 2024 23:43:47 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202401122343.40CNhl1K004229@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 23:43:47 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net Cc: portmaster@bsdforge.com, jamie@catflap.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports disabled for bsdforge References: <4c9256f85179df3768796dd37de1554c@mail.infomaniak.com> In-Reply-To: <4c9256f85179df3768796dd37de1554c@mail.infomaniak.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [209.250.224.51]); Fri, 12 Jan 2024 23:43:48 +0000 (GMT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TBdR92smsz4yTD X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:7400::/38, country:US] Daniel Engberg wrote: > I'd also like to remind people much work related to ports is not paid > and what that all entails. I don't know anthing about the history behind the scenes, and I wasn't making a personal attack on your work with ports. I know it's unpaid, but I'll also remind you that when people who aren't comitters report problems that they come across that don't actually affect them, that they aren't paid either. I noticed loads of ports that had been broken, than were not (now) broken. I was able to "fix" the port that I used personally, so had nothing to gain in reporting the issue, it was just the right thing to do. Chris was grateful, some of the other replies have been quite antagonistic. It's doubly ironic that all the times over the last 20 years I've offered to help out have fallen on deaf ears, and now most of my src/ports patches are just distributed locally because there's not much point raising a PR when no-one ever looks at them. 99% of people I've dealt with from the project are helpful and friendly, but there has been a definite increase in "clan" mentallity over the last 10 years or so, which is a shame.