From nobody Thu Jan 04 01:51:54 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4T58hr3T4wz55G1L for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2024 01:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henrichhartzer@tuta.io) Received: from w1.tutanota.de (w1.tutanota.de [81.3.6.162]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (Client CN "mail.tutanota.de", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4T58hq6djkz44j7 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2024 01:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henrichhartzer@tuta.io) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tuta.io header.s=s1 header.b=kKkUZxp0; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=tuta.io; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of henrichhartzer@tuta.io designates 81.3.6.162 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=henrichhartzer@tuta.io Received: from tutadb.w10.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF986FBFB85 for ; Thu, 4 Jan 2024 01:51:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1704333114; s=s1; d=tuta.io; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:Sender; bh=//e7tAERTLwH4cJ2kZHGKvGYuCK3nsOXLOSBXxZcDhM=; b=kKkUZxp0Ij+EwpOY2WPCQgslW+CQhrTxbvqvNQjMYfaI/llwbb3LYeXDctRot91h zHI7GOS3Ya87Ne0J8cI/E8poJRDGVbWrkG/ZlGhosdbdHhRpcDkXlNUjFvAkO0optjv uBC27A1I1YAONmaE9IEciztX22Ew1LmbQeywnwBWAOa7wiKW3+lk1t7eg4465IwFr+1 EGUHQeI58LTzN/hddOpT/H4AN9q19DTYbzauMll4e2cBNmcoiJGDVLhgOi7LEbJqvOE uQAF84MeB3v4hJlYk9tOBh/PUziZbQQygYwNgCzxpVp3kBqK+vOwx4ds5LTY95r1VYu y0MbG3pnxA== Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2024 02:51:54 +0100 (CET) From: henrichhartzer@tuta.io To: Freebsd Ports Message-ID: Subject: Latest and quarterly best practices List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.80 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.50)[-0.503]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tuta.io,quarantine]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_EXCELLENT(-0.40)[81.3.6.162:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:81.3.6.160/28:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tuta.io:s=s1]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24679, ipnet:81.3.0.0/18, country:DE]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tuta.io:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4T58hq6djkz44j7 Hi, I'm not a committer so this shouldn't carry much weight. Just wanted to exp= ress my opinion. I think the latest and quarterly setup is a nice and clever one. Unfortunat= ely, it seems fairly often that ports that should probably be cherrypicked = into quarterly are not. Occasionally, some updates make it into quarterly t= hat don't make clear sense to me, but this is much more rare. I propose that as a rule of thumb, if a package uses Semantic Versioning (s= emver) and the changes are non-breaking, it should be cherry picked into qu= arterly. Especially if this is only a patch level change and not a minor, b= ut likely either way. A couple of recent examples that I've seen, which I would like to point out= . Please note that I am *not* picking on anyone and this is just what I'm m= ore familiar with. net-p2p/monero-cli was updated from 0.18.2.2_2 to=C2=A00.18.3.1 on the 19th= of October. Any software that is blockchain related tends to need to be as= current as possible for security reasons. Quarterly still has=C2=A00.18.2.= 2_2 (although 2023Q1 will be cut soon, I assume) which is quite out of date= now. An opposite case, and this one may be truly a no harm no foul case: x11-wm/= hyprland was updated from 0.33.1_2 to=C2=A00.34.0, and cherrypicked to quar= terly. There were a number of changes in this release, and I personally wou= ld be hesitant to recommend such a cherrypicking unless there were known is= sues with 0.33.1 that users had complained about. Otherwise, since it's an = offline window manager, it seems like waiting for the quarterly release wou= ld make the most sense. Now in this case I don't know the context and cherr= ypicking may have made complete sense -- I'm just using it as an example to= try and explain my thoughts. Please don't feel at all like I'm being nitpicky. I'm just hoping to contri= bute how I can and it seems like the processes around cherrypicking could b= e improved. I love FreeBSD and appreciate the tremendous amount of work tha= t has gone into it. It really is great because of the contributions of many= . I'm just hoping to make it even greater! Thank you for reading, and Happy New Year! Sincerely, Henrich