From nobody Thu Feb 29 22:53:59 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Tm63Y1srGz5D3kX for ; Thu, 29 Feb 2024 22:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Tm63X4TWdz3xvQ; Thu, 29 Feb 2024 22:54:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (123-1-21-232.area1b.commufa.jp [123.1.21.232]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.17.1/8.17.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 41TMrxue007793; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 07:53:59 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 07:53:59 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: Cy Schubert Cc: Dag-Erling =?UTF-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= , Florian Smeets , ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposed ports deprecation and removal policy Message-Id: <20240301075359.b4906ad16d876cbdd89856bd@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <20240229174339.045063A4@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <435edf7c-a956-4317-b327-3372de70dbef@FreeBSD.org> <864jdrzcov.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <20240229174339.045063A4@slippy.cwsent.com> Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Tm63X4TWdz3xvQ On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:43:38 -0800 Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <864jdrzcov.fsf@ltc.des.dev>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav? > = w > rites: > > Florian Smeets writes: > > > Ports can be removed immediately if one of the following conditions is me= > > t: > > > > > > - Upstream distfile is no longer available from the original > > > source/mirror (Our and other distcaches e.g. Debian, Gentoo, etc do > > > not count as "available") > > > > Strong disagree, give the maintainer a chance to find an alternate > > mirror or self-host. > > +1 +1 about this point, too. Silly service providers changes their brand and domain, WITH THEIR USERS FORCIBLY INCLUDING. This immediately causes original upstream URI unavailable, even though actual project DOES NOT AT ALL CHANGES. And more importantly, some users dislikes such a domain name policy and switch service provider. Of course, this causes original upstream URI dissappear. > > > > > > - Upstream WWW is unavailable: deprecate, remove after 3 months > > > > That's the opposite of immediate removal > > > > > - BROKEN for more than 6 months > > > > Agree but that's hardly immediate > > > > > - has known vulnerabilities that weren=E2=80=99t addressed in the ports t= > > ree > > > for more than 3 months > > > > Agree but that's hardly immediate > > > > DES > > --=20 > > Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org > > > > > -- > Cheers, > Cy Schubert > FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org > NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org > > e^(i*pi)+1=0 -- Tomoaki AOKI