From nobody Sun Feb 18 12:35:16 2024 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Td4rS091bz5465h for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:35:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix@palmen-it.de) Received: from stef.palmen-it.de (stef.palmen-it.de [IPv6:2001:470:1f0b:bbb:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Td4rQ4jSMz4fF8 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix@palmen-it.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=palmen-it.de header.s=20200414 header.b=rjs4aI21; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of felix@palmen-it.de designates 2001:470:1f0b:bbb:1::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=felix@palmen-it.de; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=freebsd.org (policy=none) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=palmen-it.de; s=20200414; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=dL9YCkgoC9ITtCcLTzsWE4Jx+j7kvi2MgDsf1fOX/Dc=; b=rjs4aI213F6d3M8q4FV6yowBdS ny6pJC7ATYa/xZh7pkxTjt/3WSElt7qctVLB5bKii4oviqmHdO6nYSAI09NLDJvhksWD8egStxO6m YhzB2Y1tDUxYhL3MOtIQCPP2dKpC+a0kqIhCnySFj1HV/KJYSJCy12YCFKWzBEaNkH88eyR7nuyur wRYoc6SOjopziWrEfy4hVSgNZcXIfekLS8ohKA7Eh0U7Ri3cJbCB6fIMQdWCkp1gKh6x8IbmcUgcP FkJXrqm9vAxu8utULOn67Syci4QMgZFfrbTq+VFsxXEfZ64QIDx3rO5EXxZKzYn1GgiS7BwjSVwhn giWvMaIA==; Received: from [192.168.71.101] (helo=mail.home.palmen-it.de) by stef.palmen-it.de with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1rbgT4-000XQa-0z for ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:35:16 +0100 Received: from nexus.home.palmen-it.de ([192.168.99.2]) by mail.home.palmen-it.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (Exim 4.97 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1rbgO4-00000000Akt-2UXu for ports@freebsd.org; Sun, 18 Feb 2024 12:35:16 +0000 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 13:35:16 +0100 From: Felix Palmen To: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Re: FreeBSD ports community is broken Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: ports@freebsd.org X-Face: /1K@t"h.}e~pR@]c7HorQ!T`F^RJCa'BCr#e>IKA{>C/9OTGB4|xh"y2{?1Z5M i2w"AH^pN_LlHR^{+f',_Np~;.B;!M/bL}*qk]p5*r7F5vW};{:@4u5S?T&f0$7BJ-71Q5SV]:v$`5 A0[DZ:=?S52x8HJ~5@^P_\T@MsjG{R( Organization: FreeBSD.org References: <20240218015843.34c5d078@rimwks.local> <7q6ep7m2eee6yqtxftlwkhuwdkssd74vjow55txms7lkokazfu@grrqllhefges> <20240218174921.a8082649142dd43a469bebfa@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <4ekno7iwxvdlw4xeholcrxuuazmcstxkqyidrz27ni43lzu6wg@3ro6r5b2vhoi> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dwqgj5obfmqjtb35" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20231221 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Td4rQ4jSMz4fF8 X-Spamd-Bar: ------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.40 / 15.00]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[palmen-it.de:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[zirias@freebsd.org,felix@palmen-it.de]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:1f0b:bbb:1::1:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[palmen-it.de:s=20200414]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[2001:470:1f0b:bbb:1::1:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[freebsd.org : SPF not aligned (relaxed), DKIM not aligned (relaxed),none]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[palmen-it.de:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[zirias@freebsd.org,felix@palmen-it.de]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1] --dwqgj5obfmqjtb35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Aryeh Friedman [20240218 05:37]: > I guess you have never heard of software engineering? >=20 > Also the OP is 100% right there is a lot of "brokenish" in the ports > community for example no maintainer should ever be banned from -ports@ > but I have been for reasons never explained to me and thus am at a > severe disadvantage when asking for help (like how to switch from yacc > to bison without errors and such). Obviously you can read ports@, as my mail you're quoting went only there. Obviously you can write to ports@, as your response reached me from there. I don't know where you're banned instead, but if you ask for the why, I suggest having a look at the tone of your very first sentence. --=20 Felix Palmen {private} felix@palmen-it.de -- ports committer -- {web} http://palmen-it.de {pgp public key} http://palmen-it.de/pub.txt {pgp fingerprint} 6936 13D5 5BBF 4837 B212 3ACC 54AD E006 9879 F231 --dwqgj5obfmqjtb35 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iNUEABYKAH0WIQRpNhPVW79IN7ISOsxUreAGmHnyMQUCZdH5f18UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0Njkz NjEzRDU1QkJGNDgzN0IyMTIzQUNDNTRBREUwMDY5ODc5RjIzMQAKCRBUreAGmHny Mb44AP4tYi3dbVvj0kiUFOONbp0gzsCPcgg1n30kiazET8eFogEA97RLGEEWmX53 WQLfqUaMm1BBWGbvHla6ddp+cy02gwo= =SQWv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dwqgj5obfmqjtb35--