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Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:22:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.11.0-alpha0-144-ge5821d614e-fm-20240125.002-ge5821d61 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <42ea295f-5165-4fd5-b452-82d67f53ca03@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:21:55 -0500 From: "Dan Langille" To: "Luca Pizzamiglio" , freebsd-ports , ports-developers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Subpackages: Update Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=d771095765c44e41a548d629e7796bfc X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.09 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[langille.org,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:64.147.123.21]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[langille.org:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[64.147.123.21:from]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[dan]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29838, ipnet:64.147.123.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[langille.org:+,messagingengine.com:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TYRVf2RG1z4rXg --d771095765c44e41a548d629e7796bfc Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, Feb 8, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: > Hi FreeBSD porters. > > Here are some updates about subpackages. > > At the moment, subpackages adoption is *on hold*, as a few annoying issues have been identified and they need some time to be fixed. > A bug about optional dependencies for subpackages has already been fixed (OPT_*_DEPENDS.subpkg was not detected correctly) > > The main blockers are: > * `make describe` is not subpackages aware. A fix is in review, but not yet ready to land. This is also breaking INDEX. > * `make install` doesn't allow for partial installation. A patch is ready and in review (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D43789) to address it (in reference to previous email threads) > * poudriere forces the rebuild of subpackages dependency. A PR is open and we hope to find a solution soon. > Additionally, `USES.subpkg` doesn't work properly at the moment: dependencies (LIB and RUN) are linked to the main package, instead of the subpackage. > > Because of those issues, some subpackage commits have also been *reverted*, waiting for the fixes to land, before being committed back. > > If you are thinking of adopting subpackages, *please wait* until things get fixed. > Once those fixes are out and the situation gets more stable, we will focus on the *documentation*. I'm thinking about this from a FreshPorts point of view. With respect to subpackages, what will people want to see on the page for a given port? * list subpackages for this port? how do I get a list of subpackages for a port? make -V SUBPACKAGES ? * list of packages built by this port (I'm guessing packages.yaml will point back to the port) * is there any other information thought to be relevant to have on the page? re: https://github.com/FreshPorts/freshports/issues/544 -- Dan Langille dan@langille.org --d771095765c44e41a548d629e7796bfc Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Feb 8, = 2024, at 4:44 PM, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote:
Hi FreeBSD porters.
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Here are some updates about subpackages.

At the moment, subpackages adoption is on hold= , as a few annoying issues have been identified and they need some t= ime to be fixed.
A bug about optional dependencies for sub= packages has already been fixed (OPT_*_DE= PENDS.subpkg was not detected correctly)

Th= e main blockers are:
* `make describe` is not subpackages = aware. A fix is in review, but not yet ready to land. This is also break= ing INDEX.
* `make install` doesn't allow for partial inst= allation. A patch is ready and in review (https://reviews.freebsd.org/D43789) to address it (= in reference to previous email threads)
* poudriere forces= the rebuild of subpackages dependency. A PR is open and we hope to find= a solution soon.
Additionally, `USES.subpkg` doesn't work= properly at the moment: dependencies (LIB and RUN) are linked to the ma= in package, instead of the subpackage.

Beca= use of those issues, some subpackage commits have also been reverted<= /b>, waiting for the fixes to land, before being committed back.

If you are thinking of adopting subpackages, pl= ease wait until things get fixed.
Once those fixes are= out and the situation gets more stable, we will focus on the documen= tation.

I'm thinking about t= his from a FreshPorts point of view. With respect to subpackages, what w= ill people want to see on the page for a given port?

* list subpackages for= this port? how do I get a list of subpackages for a port? make -V SUBPA= CKAGES ?
* list of packages built by t= his port (I'm guessing packages.yaml will point back to the port)
* is there any other information thought to = be relevant to have on the page?

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re: https://github.com/FreshPorts/freshports/= issues/544
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