From nobody Thu Aug 15 22:31:35 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WlKc306Kcz5T1MP for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 22:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=J/9G=PO=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WlKc13wLqz4GM9 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2024 22:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=J/9G=PO=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=quip.cz header.s=private header.b="htU/VXMj"; dkim=pass header.d=quip.cz header.s=private header.b=NKqMSUIW; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of "SRS0=J/9G=PO=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz" has no SPF policy when checking 94.124.105.4) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=J/9G=PO=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz" Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007BFD7893 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 00:31:37 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=quip.cz; s=private; t=1723761097; bh=RiYLI1XkGuzXqXnLliUtNTpx+JbS1HtXHsK8rWnw/TE=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=htU/VXMjRbdW0TUtUY8GeSIEMJphM9ohsR7a2tJf/69Mq4kn9myd8g2bQUbC6UKmM vPnXKrNpqoPtMlLzpJ5KWg59RubYXUSdqPRIZ9YBb4jGUJRp9HtK8GBVMKpaWA3sa5 opWU24gHael5T6WNjTrLnBPbaETmya7nyeHjAjBc= Received: from [192.168.145.49] (ip-89-177-27-225.bb.vodafone.cz [89.177.27.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E1CFD788A for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2024 00:31:35 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=quip.cz; s=private; t=1723761096; bh=RiYLI1XkGuzXqXnLliUtNTpx+JbS1HtXHsK8rWnw/TE=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=NKqMSUIWQoGG+iPiCSO2aFr7Nxh0GZQMvC2+I7LcL94Z6x/pjwK209EsIklfaGih3 4Uieex5StKFnDP8ei6Cy+wSnkyZko83AXZWa4iPDTtbTDyUPuGG+txYP8IYez8LWMR 2g+gsu+0Az35CCU0JsoxVEEgpcpVxIuwpS1NVXUY= Message-ID: <608da216-2047-4fdd-b48b-88659dedb27c@quip.cz> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 00:31:35 +0200 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Language: en-US From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Subject: quarterly 2024Q3 amd64 / 13.3 missing all vital packages for desktop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.95 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.965]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[000.fbsd@quip.cz,SRS0=J/9G=PO=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[quip.cz:s=private]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[quip.cz]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42000, ipnet:94.124.104.0/21, country:CZ]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[000.fbsd@quip.cz,SRS0=J/9G=PO=quip.cz=000.fbsd@elsa.codelab.cz]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[quip.cz:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WlKc13wLqz4GM9 A simple pkg upgrade of the desktop and the result is an unusable system without all important components. What's wrong with package repositories? I intentionally use quarterly to avoid frequent breakage seen in the latest. Now I've run the pkg upgrade on KDE5 Plasma desktop (on 13.3 amd64) and the result is that the pkg upgrade uninstalled all my important stuff like Firefox, Thunderbird, Ardour, Gimp, Telegram, Audacity, Audacious, Pidgin etc. In short, everything I use on a daily basis. Finally, pkg autoremove offers me to delete 520 more packages! Isn't the quarterly branch supposed to be the stable one, for users who don't need the hottest new stuff, but mainly want to avoid similar breakages? pkg: No packages available to install matching 'ImageMagick7' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'ardour' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'audacious-plugins' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'audacity' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'dolphin-plugins' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'falkon' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'firefox' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'gimp' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'gimp-beautify-plugin' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'gimp-lensfun-plugin' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'gimp-lqr-plugin' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'gimp-refocus-plugin' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'kde5' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin-encryption' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin-fetion' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin-hotkeys' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin-icyque' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin-libnotify' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin-manualsize' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin-otr' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin-skypeweb' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'pidgin-window_merge' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'purple-googlechat' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'purple-hangouts' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'remmina-lite' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'smplayer' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'telegram-desktop' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'thunderbird' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'vlc' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'wireshark' have been found in the repositories pkg: No packages available to install matching 'xsane' have been found in the repositories Given that the quarterly is in the middle of its lifetime, it cannot be some transient breakage after branch creation. Are the quarterly branches / packages abandoned? Kind regards Miroslav Lachman