From nobody Tue Sep 26 15:55:33 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Rw48T1D8Kz4vKVK for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rw48T0hxDz4X61; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1695743737; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=TgeHtm2I48LYp8Ifw9UCntx3GR39pdk9EDBT4O29iLg=; b=fcqxmsskbi7DOa53cX/LC0lwx5Pg3OY6tSD5UHD5Xda9vlfHgPw2p/4JMciilSYJcLRKXS bFqcVVwaUx7s1E2uAdcYKzIUr5smGr5/bVTzg+IgfPU3l0A9HwuCQ5n6zw73QrnNeRh8So EmH+XHqcxHMnCoPjT5onwoOU6c1rsf71xSpkCJhhQj60BCWfzU6NoHQjK9ADRFmzz0y14h 70DglFc39Tm9/PNGxK8yzVPLu1xtTBgkpIHo/okK3IlZ7n+uEqMBI+4e1AF0vMdyhs7vQD 4SyPhii7wy2tbkkXseOGsEe0S0HnXfRoMVaAq9V7NroDMp6OFQNUy3fvJvvYtQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1695743737; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=n5+icLSc/0vXghAlzmi8pwHZJxyCQbVyoe0mxXB8JbLKEoWG0ggLZbjui77RYC0HnnsqE+ DV0hN891b/soL6lgK+iXFO/0k5GBeVURPQiPfg8kapSVt9rFRVAQjV6QTKTG0KsW1a5Lmr kW9tH42mGqIjHH9TfOXlFzDlrE+XRctp/mNp5CqZGCXwnauR5ObAaU/iC9XEd6g9yAjULT ROPsTtab8gCXvEdaraAwoi2MpFD1PmRMOedQh8xc4M85SUkTJ7mXzvpn7ehnnfJyRWpDLd bMZ/zJfQp9US2neSHO3lzZLM77LPRr8bsJcjpQzxQgiJsFGANhDJ8NjY5NwN+w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1695743737; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=TgeHtm2I48LYp8Ifw9UCntx3GR39pdk9EDBT4O29iLg=; b=m/GhF6E1JUpiHdB5EeIR5otFRo06Nt/DElW4J++TzLx1G9/Wt6NZ+nJKa5VenZO9ivqWfr T8tPQiroyc4wRmCCwtedoy5TVrFuxk6249vhLCNjePkC/vM43PqOTPkp30hlaITKa5iicE n/jAxwELvwbLtuc6fNJuunAVKj8hogmNquN2LFLvBMI5dUzB4dORM2HEq/t3jgvUfb8UJz Rd0k37NWKgbO1XGR/2YhzzaoSkx3HV4c51K+vW+uyzI0BVcB+IJRszW3rHWH2FPODCqAFZ xS5g3+SMVnHQvp+mnM5mNgQd5wMcoD8S4QCesyKO3VHXXsSjKflH8fLrOarN1w== Received: from [IPV6:2a01:e11:2002:4280::13:1] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e11:2002:4280::13:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: madpilot/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Rw48S4NRgzlnc; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:55:33 +0200 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Content-Language: en-US To: Jose Quinteiro , ports@freebsd.org References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> <11aede54-89d0-9b46-28f8-1931571b8917@m5p.com> <0f15aeeb-54f0-e902-9eaa-0c22a17fbe97@quinteiro.org> From: Guido Falsi In-Reply-To: <0f15aeeb-54f0-e902-9eaa-0c22a17fbe97@quinteiro.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 26/09/23 17:26, Jose Quinteiro wrote: > On 9/25/23 13:21, George Mitchell wrote: >> On 9/25/23 11:38, Guido Falsi wrote: >>> [...] >>> There is a more general aspect to this. In the rest of the unix world >>> software is now almost universally build using CI systems and >>> buildboxes, people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. >>> Developers don't care to keep low overhead in their builds and with >>> dependency. The ports tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. >>> >>> Anyway building from ports on live machines has always been bad >>> practice for a lot of reasons. >>> [...] >> And yet it mostly works for some of us.  I'd be overjoyed to sign up >> with the program (using packages only) if packages not using CUPS >> (that would run with unassisted lpr) were available, let's say as a >> flavor.  But until then ...                               -- George >> > The sudden appearance of a Rust requirement broke at least some CI systems: > https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/issues/5771#issuecomment-774997087 > For the record, the comment you're referencing (and so the breakage) was happening two years ago. We are being quite late at the party... -- Guido Falsi