From nobody Tue Sep 26 07:44:51 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvsGF14HZz4tmn9 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 07:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvsGF0QBxz4TS5; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 07:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1695714293; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=n1Xi3y1ZOGuj8MRwVI7cV4QB7a177Owm91LHH9Uqj1E=; b=E8PTP9UQXkGHuEwzlSd5ay+xiNP/UiBYAIJA9/qq6j2gK8RVwFJFdG0MJRXIItyCMKVxR9 ZT2JNPO12YYf7xHLY5/mvaVYquJKi0nzNhXejnBu/ZOJ0JHIVU2cuJlelX0T9NcRQm/kBm FLH8ekRPgYS5h4ijzrgsT/h4wHq0EIvB+iPfI0CZhr1/PqRsh8qiC5Ya9ZRRBtLFC6ZFcr VnZAJ68djdl9Et3mpaKqStQ7E2mGaQNfQ1vZUo7jeV71CxtcuB71Eb8E0uZmC4LmAoK9fe MFsqmaFyp3so6NrNryyHbeqtIax1NzGfT6/SDWXTuGaOD1F3UR7hICuIhRRYgw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1695714293; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=oesofmktpRs4XbKeBroTO6KpjnE/BCywgcu5XZ4J6H5Lv5moc7vd+2iRqTvkGjZzGawUFV rxw08rPgaQk89YgmmqsGhjBk+Ek/Q/LF5LZ6X5++pbMe0HsfEBnSsAdcywObZNk9f9N0J2 ebqs29imPgOLGE0H/+wPetVd4d/6n+gnSGHq7zL0xFIATdhT8EOSOJ5eV8t5ScdVO4zs6i UYhtIityZIN/CWCsSgVkc+syKRMLRl4is0JoZ0LcTTYlc+H6izri7sLoRK89p4M64jWJaJ kROEDsT9FgT79r6gjr35ZZD0g/rGxAK4OLG0He5vmDWOrMrg7pUJTbGZnw5GRQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1695714293; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=n1Xi3y1ZOGuj8MRwVI7cV4QB7a177Owm91LHH9Uqj1E=; b=Hg32rszy7G+5SblaD0XHRFphCRCJy3b3PoMVDUsUKZI/mbzq9tQm/sC7smP2TPLTSpt/Oa Qa5tbdxGagsyJ/lWqP8jhKPW6dCb9r3v2RLTma6fsZXX9JlSYHJbcIJMqiFAe+xtXxGh86 e3IK67NkG4ll3mZCA5yC2wnQbWvCv2o3sCbqcHg4LrT2DKyMyz9VfAI0nUy5tWNUj6ltZj A6bQa0IrGBvmOmjNu52rFbe1Kc4ghLitlIuvnB4tZWKKRPrY4fK06MEl25ClJNI9R03n0i Hjg9slpEjNfGy/VnZzUpdlcKXf7+kxA6ts2glwBZt5uCwjE7xCSd/L1r/2bS6g== Received: from [IPV6:2a01:e11:2002:4280::13:1] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e11:2002:4280::13:1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: madpilot/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4RvsGD49sBz6XC; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 07:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <2e1786f2-1aae-7199-5a3e-5d8c9cdbedbf@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 09:44:51 +0200 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Content-Language: en-US To: Tatsuki Makino , "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" References: From: Guido Falsi Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 26/09/23 09:30, Tatsuki Makino wrote: > Hello. > > It means that rust is so pervasive that rust builds are unavoidable :) Actually it's much worse than that. It's not only rust per se. My poudriere machine rarely can do a build run without rebuilding one or more of rust, some version of clang, some version of gcc, qt[56]-webengine, py-qt6 (this one does most of the work single threaded unluckily). Also it often ends up having to rebuild firefox and thinderbird (these two heavily use rust, and get little speed up from ccache), libreoffice (this one at least get a very strong speed up thanks to ccache) etc. I do not approve of this, but the world is going in that direction, especially for desktop oriented software but not only. My conclusion is, I have no power to stop this, so I can only adapt, with effort, but still less effort than resisting alone for no benefit. -- Guido Falsi