From nobody Mon Sep 25 18:33:24 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RvWj16VB8z4tv8n for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RvWj15sWdz3LH6; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1695666805; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=RYpSXGdxrhk4m1l5/Ze2ZPG792vS3R7bXsFK03CPOiE=; b=lfdtVXro7oV9ATUeE9OTNH03bPV0w1Xw92DqWw19RcDHhSZ2vBVLsQ7CoiF/HcPEsT3vU/ 5TnoVp23cIchnoKAlX2H3nSaGGTGWMBCPAhtX3smM4k26vsANthWsNmfKiX9iHtR+VaAJ9 HR5AOUGT50AeOV8XEqoR2qR3nS6qaFQNT0/b5xqpxhd+NFSAgVe4oNfV5953DVUPbcayrh oCNK4wTREqgDktAKojvcWVuaDiFiwsEI0MFuKI+U3pCWDA1DaUgU1u/TdRoOdwduJ8KFEp s7XIzd0zptYkVhJFLgfJ11jttq/9c4H979gmEDIsQe9GaBhn1zyQAtLW2gSkdQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1695666805; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=dOi0XwMugNFuVdN+c9keFxjeVkp2q1LsBOaHVhHFIKiJlEKkqoBSQjy0CtfJyTigZfPUgD CnmE1MoXvM88HEZ9jW8lb+ikNYfWwVVJ6kJVaBg4RYcivF7nLm0yCv7jAjMKA0O65iieE3 4EZBxzgJNC0HDJ8BJxfkyPOY3FwBGqCESquj4MG2cOjYrKhRQnie7fhMtoL/kAZL1zU7he lzRcBi/RPYIRxcezJ2nJyrBydBtX06Bptr2p6+5DHQL+CqmrgKgIZXbKbp5vm4ZdGCsdSH /0BVBtdN7h/ZPKip0NkBAtCSQe4nOY+gtxPkgl7VgEVspKuPzuy/2eDDTZ2E0g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1695666805; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=RYpSXGdxrhk4m1l5/Ze2ZPG792vS3R7bXsFK03CPOiE=; b=NTRZuoz42FImUo2UJBYcZvmlcdsWj3w0AqDWHHr690k0OZGd48xXBL/EhpECrzcJec7VAJ 5MSVVLZFQdP1x54cwv271pkcn/NyLdj8Kd2u9RgG2WoIsHGdXW74Bamx46egSMh3UVEpgC xvaVOB7qpPaYZhd5NudoMJqURiQIaep5nXzAu7vJrt08cyuMlB/4Dt7NVDXNLKOcj4Gzfq D7qFZ4g8WABQV5jq4bxc4r2GCxe8KaCOHPs7UobiNzzvSoUrlqNVjisOCrXlcBR+TgiJJ3 H9Mz4dx551DEdR0v/RkSYFGUXu9mCpvwK60qMXqzoGcuvhmQ1FnlLt1A3VxYUw== Received: from [IPV6:2a01:e11:2002:4280:4aee:cff:fe73:9857] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e11:2002:4280:4aee:cff:fe73:9857]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: madpilot/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4RvWj12Rrfz1LPQ; Mon, 25 Sep 2023 18:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from madpilot@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <343f2abb-6a3e-0193-f4bc-5db69c8021f5@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 20:33:24 +0200 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: dns/bind916 builds rust unexpectedly Content-Language: en-US To: Gareth de Vaux Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1e05be67-cb15-964e-c78b-e74e714257a9@FreeBSD.org> From: Guido Falsi In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 25/09/23 19:50, Gareth de Vaux wrote: > On Mon 2023-09-25 (17:38), Guido Falsi wrote: >> This one, which calls in py-cryptography which requires rust. > > Thanks > >> There is a more general aspect to this. In the rest of the unix world >> software is now almost universally build using CI systems and buildboxes, >> people use binary packages almost all the time in linux. Developers don't >> care to keep low overhead in their builds and with dependency. The ports >> tree cannot mitigate this external pressure. > > Understood. Though the situation you point out has been around for decades > and this is the first time I've encountered such a chaotic result. > One can drive a car without using seat belts for years without any injury [1], dies this mean seat belts are unnecessary? [1] if he is lucky enough to never cause or be involved (without any blame) in a crash, even minor one. -- Guido Falsi