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Content-Language: en-US From: Richard Childers To: ports@FreeBSD.org References: <7a0cfebd-9137-435e-910a-3e9641650976@redwoodhodling.com> In-Reply-To: <7a0cfebd-9137-435e-910a-3e9641650976@redwoodhodling.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box5299.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - redwoodhodling.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 47.35.38.239 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1r5XZk-003Nw7-1H X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: 047-035-038-239.res.spectrum.com ([10.0.0.20]) [47.35.38.239]:27797 X-Source-Auth: childers@redwoodhodling.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Org: HG=bhshared;ORG=bluehost; X-Source-Cap: ZGh6Y3ZybXk7ZGh6Y3ZybXk7Ym94NTI5OS5ibHVlaG9zdC5jb20= X-Local-Domain: yes X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfP6oxy4uxtm+jW9c8bMmvp8AuCdUeF9ic6N5mH2tzMXpLhDFFmY/G5WghYlaRDhCfEZunZrovxnNYFHpXXo80eeQHN7NixD6OKJzuyM7YakrP7ICxFSQ tLLmh7au8X8yi5JY7pxFzLqQBF8MGlcY7/WKJAuobglvaY+w4KYmLqkceZNWIJYK3j3YQrf3Rp5qKHSxEN3Nj/pDlVZypDpZUZ0= X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.29 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:35.89.44.32/29]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:35.80.0.0/12, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; HAS_X_SOURCE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[redwoodhodling.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[35.89.44.37:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SZbsg3cpQz3Qc3 X-Spamd-Bar: -- When I say 'disappear', I mean this: root@metatron:~ # date Tue Nov 21 12:41:35 PST 2023 root@metatron:~ # ls -d /usr/ports/*/*google*chrom* /usr/ports/www/ungoogled-chromium root@metatron:~ # pkg search ungoogled-chromium root@metatron:~ # It would be nice if packages didn't disappear and reappear. Can't we just save the last successful build? ~richard ===== On 11/21/23 07:39, Richard Childers wrote: > > I was using ungoogled-chromium and I had 60+ tabs that I can now not > get back because ungoogled-chromium has been withdrawn from circulation. > > > why are these packages appearing and disappearing? If it's a package, > it's supposed to be good enough to public use. The experimental stuff > is supposed to stay in the ports section, not be promoted to packages. > > > FreeBSD used to hold itself to a higher standard than Linux; it stood > for STABILITY. Linux stood for EXPERIMENTATION. > > > What happened? Is FreeBSD being run by college kids now? > > > The quality of FreeBSD needs to be detached from the class projects > you're working on to graduate. That's what Linux is for, in my opinion. > > > FreeBSD user since 1994. > > > ~richard > > > ===== > > >