From nobody Tue Nov 21 15:39:01 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SZT7Z0rSGz51ppd for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from childers@redwoodhodling.com) Received: from omta036.useast.a.cloudfilter.net (omta036.useast.a.cloudfilter.net [44.202.169.35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SZT7Y3BZXz4NLk for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from childers@redwoodhodling.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of childers@redwoodhodling.com designates 44.202.169.35 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=childers@redwoodhodling.com; dmarc=none Received: from eig-obgw-5004a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.0.29.221]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id 5RKvrNb83gpyE5Sq8rMOs8; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:39:04 +0000 Received: from box5299.bluehost.com ([162.241.225.231]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id 5Sq7rGnzJ11XZ5Sq8r5cuu; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:39:04 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=Z+v/oVdA c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=655ccf18 a=j8cmhGSwDXHfk78weSC6XQ==:117 a=j8cmhGSwDXHfk78weSC6XQ==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=BNY50KLci1gA:10 a=o3A5294sAPkA:10 a=-AMYbjP1wELKlgn8rDIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=ZXulRonScM0A:10 Received: from 047-035-038-239.res.spectrum.com ([47.35.38.239]:12362 helo=[10.0.0.20]) by box5299.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1r5Sq7-0039L2-1y for ports@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:39:03 -0700 Message-ID: <7a0cfebd-9137-435e-910a-3e9641650976@redwoodhodling.com> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:39:01 -0800 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: ports@FreeBSD.org From: Richard Childers Subject: Why do packages disappear? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box5299.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - redwoodhodling.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 47.35.38.239 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1r5Sq7-0039L2-1y X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: 047-035-038-239.res.spectrum.com ([10.0.0.20]) [47.35.38.239]:12362 X-Source-Auth: childers@redwoodhodling.com X-Email-Count: 6 X-Org: HG=bhshared;ORG=bluehost; X-Source-Cap: ZGh6Y3ZybXk7ZGh6Y3ZybXk7Ym94NTI5OS5ibHVlaG9zdC5jb20= X-Local-Domain: yes X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfEXR1IVuxEKIh27iV3AwrGWApv0muzlTPO+8IT6XSK6qQsOMOcpszS/vfzHvSAWcR7h0dmq3KFYHvsyzlrwR0cImEy+cUE/fIYd5jkr+YDLY15Z8Uaxq vGaAebecqenlNGvhQ58R3hat1DZRT3oqfFBxOYvL031IM/SyZhpOjdxYzybeuLms1b9xE+fda0fSziHpckS+qH0J4rjk3pfOUO8= X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.29 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:44.202.169.32/29]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[redwoodhodling.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[44.202.169.35:from]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[44.202.169.35:from]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_X_SOURCE(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:44.192.0.0/11, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SZT7Y3BZXz4NLk X-Spamd-Bar: -- I was using ungoogled-chromium and I had 60+ tabs that I can now not get back because ungoogled-chromium has been withdrawn from circulation. why are these packages appearing and disappearing? If it's a package, it's supposed to be good enough to public use. The experimental stuff is supposed to stay in the ports section, not be promoted to packages. FreeBSD used to hold itself to a higher standard than Linux; it stood for STABILITY. Linux stood for EXPERIMENTATION. What happened? Is FreeBSD being run by college kids now? The quality of FreeBSD needs to be detached from the class projects you're working on to graduate. That's what Linux is for, in my opinion. FreeBSD user since 1994. ~richard =====