From nobody Wed Jul 26 20:21:45 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RB50D6ZMNz4pfLS for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2023 20:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RB50D69Zlz3qDJ; Wed, 26 Jul 2023 20:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbeich@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1690402908; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Llyw1Ibo/O/m6LYt0EGmDG75HQCS2GykyODlc6Av5/I=; b=K0vOFI1/c1s5HRH6A9U0e4Il8PfqfP892rptdfaVGNP6R4JjBRhJPuUcsYYFuI1Mo/ui4g C4LYk7xHjyVWHxd5Zp7QHNIM5ThGYIj96nG19DlnqaNMQSglg+glnSmijRwDGAnJrnYmUA FtS7EtmXCMjPjrbtLzXvEjd4TuCGJb5wE/ycdHQff7rOY9E1YezTZi0daDFvA8IQFDZMOf Wnx2JmuL8pVnNK9iAu4hwR0aBhlaIGGY5yK5KW8o34+O6wGa98Hzpb9yA43GeEi8Ap3Iep VRFVd7WHjAw8f1+qzWNQde3VIUvO9AttXoElpTPJkyxOGoIjE2jiiW/qpARY4w== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1690402908; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Llyw1Ibo/O/m6LYt0EGmDG75HQCS2GykyODlc6Av5/I=; b=pbtxqmCvB5iTKPeZhFxFJBzKLVJMXSsNd5c/tOiAAeIBlOyXM8bY9EwvzoI7B0fN+b+Kzk ms2WAKSb0IVBaSYwh31qBIo60mpCnMnSQOuhquOhPSl6tLKzZ+/U5Rved5cKsP0o8HIS/y OX49ZlNAJ558J+pYqWrX+QB8b1mJZXYPJiRat2f5Zk+qO1G9yUPml6Ql9gCvzQgVEbUrGf mJG2pnE1b6bhhIiMxjBr0sdtOONo9oLyg5+LeYXZLpvCtmA6gFWJhgWyggATwetmfv2mrn BCZG49v0OHs846Io//UPj5JbjNhz6V2EsXZFpkWbcixD+U+pawsHKjnT0JBSEQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1690402908; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=dECF/6lJVuHBmUpltIMHOU8O6u17tbS8XjqIej2I4JDhKep3QQM9YCO6Z5c3ZVSoCEA83N /RSK/OXjervB4CNsnpy+W+UQ3XBcCOz8QSZ9zoGO6cyUzkm7dOdmLEwWnIRxoEuDBnmy0X nCPglP261qXZKRwpnsSEymKYmqeyKJNCrvNyKWwn4m0LChMCqOjiNVG/9IhjoUTy8j2+tM 5Zr1E1z9eSLOcn6w65TmX+x4CXwuj7cjF7iEBdVPIUetargoPKVKCLZnkxuFgVHtCz5gYO 0RtlKO7r9+uxmlw5huJSPZ7aHBHgzJuRN30jtBpJmR2JETV4TpwgIGoEwkCR0w== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1354) id AA156449D; Wed, 26 Jul 2023 20:21:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Jan Beich To: NSD Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reorganizing FreeBSD Ports Directory Structure for Non-X Window Managers and Wayland Support In-Reply-To: <6f2e2ce5-e1e8-437f-9e20-5fec3f6a305b@app.fastmail.com> (nsd@nantahala.systems's message of "Tue, 25 Jul 2023 04:44:55 +0900") References: <6f2e2ce5-e1e8-437f-9e20-5fec3f6a305b@app.fastmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 22:21:45 +0200 Message-ID: List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NSD writes: > Dear All, > > FreeBSD could benefit from reorganizing its directory structure to > accommodate non-X Window managers more effectively. Currently, these > managers are all placed under the "x11" directories, which may not > accurately represent their nature. - Porter's Handbook recommends against[1] adding new physical categories - Some Wayland compositors are also X11 window managers: plasma5-kwin, kwinft, mutter and, probably, enlightment [1] https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/porters-handbook/makefiles/#proposing= -categories > A more intuitive approach could be to introduce a new "display" directory= that encompasses various display managers. Here's a proposed reorganizatio= n: > > display/ > =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80 x11/ > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80... > =E2=94=82 > =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80 wayland/ > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=9C=E2=94=80 wayland-wm/ > =E2=94=82 =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 ... > =E2=94=82 > =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 arcan/ > =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 arcan-wm/ > =E2=94=94=E2=94=80 durden/ - Nested physical categories are a POLA violation (going to confuse and bre= ak lots of stuff) - Tagging is more flexible and discoverable and is already done via virtual= categories - Gentoo uses "gui-wm" while PkgSrc uses "wm" for both X11 window managers and Wayland compositors; for example, x11* can be renamed to gui* Anyway, I'm not interested. I already struggle to find the correct category even for non-Wayland ports.