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FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: FreeBSD bugzilla, bureaucracy and obstacles Content-Language: en-US To: ports@freebsd.org References: <6D24E23B-1F79-47E9-B533-361188502BEA@lassitu.de> <76ad55a3-46c2-146e-6005-b300dc911e1c@freebsd.org> <05a2883a-c7ee-add7-9fd3-2b3d7c60876a@freebsd.org> <01da352d98f0a42dfbad677e361e6b45@bsdforge.com> From: Graham Perrin Organization: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <01da352d98f0a42dfbad677e361e6b45@bsdforge.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------0pST7DOfBROTdkmj25fksvDS" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------------0pST7DOfBROTdkmj25fksvDS Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------Kh9Uj2OJL7ZBUrHuiKUrhpm0"; protected-headers="v1" From: Graham Perrin To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7b05fa54-709e-754b-173d-66085d485e4d@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD bugzilla, bureaucracy and obstacles References: <6D24E23B-1F79-47E9-B533-361188502BEA@lassitu.de> <76ad55a3-46c2-146e-6005-b300dc911e1c@freebsd.org> <05a2883a-c7ee-add7-9fd3-2b3d7c60876a@freebsd.org> <01da352d98f0a42dfbad677e361e6b45@bsdforge.com> In-Reply-To: <01da352d98f0a42dfbad677e361e6b45@bsdforge.com> --------------Kh9Uj2OJL7ZBUrHuiKUrhpm0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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On 19/07/2023 00:28, Chris wrote:
On 2023-07-18 00:05, Fernando Apestegu=C3=ADa wrote:
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 9:02=E2=80=AFAM G= raham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org>
wrote:

On 18/07/2023 07:29, Fernando Apestegu=C3= =ADa wrote:
> =E2=80=A6 Would you say that requesting maintainers-feedba= ck when reporting an
> issue with a port is common sense? =E2=80=A6

Yes.

Common sense, and automated sense, because in the vast majority of cases
(i.e. commonplace), the request is automated.
Tho I'm not the one whom you asked. I can say as a long-time Maintainer; that
the solicitation for feedback is automated in the sense that Bugzilla determines
whom the Maintainer is and CC's them.

Thanks; true enough.

Whilst the maintainer's address does not appear in the CC field, there is addressing with relation to the maintainer-feedback flag.

See, for example, the Bugzilla-automated beginning to the history at today's <https://bugs.freebsd.org/bug= zilla/show_activity.cgi?id=3D272586>.

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