From nobody Thu Jan 05 18:58:50 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Nnwk03sFcz2nvtk for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:59:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Nnwjz4d3cz3C32; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 18:59:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of portmaster@bsdforge.com has no SPF policy when checking 24.113.41.81) smtp.mailfrom=portmaster@bsdforge.com Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 305IwpZS008433; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 10:58:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from portmaster@bsdforge.com) List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 10:58:50 -0800 From: Chris To: Felix Palmen Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports for C64 cross-development (here: exomizer) In-Reply-To: <20221228155136.aauhb5zkgnih6hyy@nexus.home.palmen-it.de> References: <20221228155136.aauhb5zkgnih6hyy@nexus.home.palmen-it.de> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: <68f41b31582248b2c301ee3bf52f8fd8@bsdforge.com> X-Sender: portmaster@bsdforge.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_92c5b2e5509f8df215e27f099707b032" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Nnwjz4d3cz3C32 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; MIME_UNKNOWN(0.10)[application/pgp-keys]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=multimap; Matched map: local_wl_ip X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --=_92c5b2e5509f8df215e27f099707b032 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 2022-12-28 07:51, Felix Palmen wrote: > Hi all! > > As we all know, FreeBSD is a "general-purpose" OS. I guess this includes > purposes you never thought of. One thing *I* use it for is > cross-development for the good old - Commodore 64 - :) > > For this very special purpose, there are already ports available you > will need. Of course, emulators/vice, the arguably best emulator for > these old Commodore platforms, but what's important for cross-dev: it > contains a "monitor" (similar to a debugger) that's plain superior to > anything "native". Then, we also have more than just one cross-assembler > targeting the 6502 CPU. My personal favorite is ca65, which comes with > devel/cc65, a C(!) cross-compiler. Even when not using C, it features a > linker that works very much like you know it from modern platforms, with > memory-areas and segments you can define in a linker config. > > But then, there are also things missing. Very often, you will need a > cruncher on the C64. The de-facto standard nowadays is "exomizer", which > is kind of a "cross-cruncher": It crunches data on the PC and contains > 6502-code you can easily integrate in your projects to decrunch it on > the fly. > > For some years now, I have ports of exomizer2 and exomizer3 in my local > ports tree. They are not very polished, just enough to work for me. But > then, if we have cross-assemblers that are *only* useful to people who > do cross-development for the C64 and similar ... why not go the full > way? > > I therefore plan to "polish" my exomizer ports and get them into ports > main. Are there any objections? Or maybe, would someone welcome to have > these available? Yes, please. 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