From nobody Tue Dec 12 12:01:23 2023 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SqHJh6MCfz53sNb for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Received: from echo.brtsvcs.net (echo.brtsvcs.net [208.111.40.118]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SqHJg1hbsz3Xd6 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com designates 208.111.40.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com; dmarc=none Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (65-100-43-2.dia.static.qwest.net [65.100.43.2]) by echo.brtsvcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F22938D86; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.26.25.100] (ivy.pas.ds.pilgrimaccounting.com [10.26.25.100]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A38E474D99; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 04:01:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 04:01:23 -0800 List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.1 Subject: Re: Another morning lost to bad ports choices (perl upgrade, plus postgres) To: "Dan Mahoney (Ports)" , ports@freebsd.org References: <034BDF27-C9FC-4EBC-901E-21A4BB81AF31@gushi.org> Content-Language: en-US From: list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com In-Reply-To: <034BDF27-C9FC-4EBC-901E-21A4BB81AF31@gushi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.47 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.992]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.968]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.21)[-0.207]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:208.111.40.0/24, country:US]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bluerosetech.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SqHJg1hbsz3Xd6 X-Spamd-Bar: -- On 2023-10-24 15:12, Dan Mahoney (Ports) wrote: > Yes, I know that I should be ready to upgrade to 15 at some point, on > whatever quarterly port boundary it's decided, "I guess that's when", > with no advance notice, via the full stupid dump-and-restore > process. I know it's too late now, but run postgresql-server in its own jail. Among other administrative advantages, it splits the postgresql-client dependency tree so you don't have to upgrade your database server every time the Ports Tree bumps PGSQL_DEFAULT. PostgreSQL clients tend to have excellent backward compatibility, so as a rule the server just needs to be a supported version.