Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

On 2022-01-23 10:19, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I did not really have an opinion on this, since we never used FTP,
> but I was a bit surprised by the suggestion to use SSH instead.
> 
> It never occurred to us that anything but HTTP(S) was possible.
> We simply run Nginx in a jail serving the packages that Poudriere
> produces for us. Setup time/effort: 5 minutes.
> 
> Now after this comment:
> 
>> Am 22.01.2022 um 09:35 schrieb Chris <portmaster@bsdforge.com>:
>> I find it's less "housekeeping" to use ftp(1) setup through inetd(8) for 
>> pkg repos, than
>> via ssh.
> 
> I understand the appeal of FTP.
> Maybe this discussion is focusing on the wrong topic. Perhaps
> we should consider including a light weight way to serve HTTP(S)
> in base? Like Lighttpd, which as far as I know comes with a BSD
> 3-clause equivalent license.
> 
> But then the general tendency has been to remove network services
> from base rather than introduce them. Like e.g. BIND.
> 
> So I really have no idea what the general opinion is, just wanted
> to throw in that IMHO HTTPS is the best protocol to the task and
> if some way to serve that could be included in base, I for one would
> appreciate that.
> 
> OTOH Chris, what's keeping you from installing a web server just
> serving static files?
Different environments/ different requirements. But habit as much as anything 
else.
Ftp is trivial, has always been available. So I never even need to think 
about it.
I perform mass installs/upgrades in large networks. There is no overhead 
using ftp
either through a one-start | inetd. The clients are all started/used at will.
It seems to me that removing features also removes value. IMHO the gain from 
the
removal of transports as trivial as ftp(1) bring little to the table for all
concerned. But that's just me. :-)

-- Chris
> 
> Kind regards,
> Patrick
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