From nobody Sat Jul 27 08:07:38 2024 X-Original-To: ports-bugs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WWHKk3hyLz5RfMH for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WWHKk2gTxz4sK5 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1722067658; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=cNjm9WfJerminkSZ+3bvhsVRoe/T65AEU8h7CZ+2/g3oDqPRRDbRbv4xLvakhaCz5DW58J TVTvqGVvTmCNEquTsQRzFWQ5KjKAv/s13ZKs9OBUJ8mzq3wHu7T6jyQNgoaudIglDI9ybp Q5YMefes5/TDJ7a+a43w2CpNkoAoRf51+3cEH+srMz1Ze8EdYVVI3hofa9hVWk25O309N/ kaKTC69NcyZkf+RCQoD8ddh6aCGvDMZAgEviFx1Oy5Lm+PpPrlHEldOspavEXvYqYB8u+C 9N4/4gDOjJ3178MOtMBV0B9SL4sYDE72zNdb4ulXTOdAlNVGnVK+oAz0HEI3dA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1722067658; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=kKgFZfM12NucJpdbfO+OgEg0FvuQHu65BDBIUj0G5ng=; b=VqaVe7AjWjcKUBLBLl9UPCtR1LsrNblJynPSirDnZySXPCTH30VkoMvlKr3RYEGWDH1rhv 2gXygVoVYE2d75Pc3O3PFTTdvtF2Rk6K19ZkhSEAmW2aDGGYQ3rIWqTeRoN0i4s0pmPlKB V1rmFTzbWY/7vuN17FYspCnB41J0UMFT1wi8XyaWEm9uECtmlm4LI1V01NNKD8+z7OxsOP 3stF+qUiRbF5gvfVLmUkRwHmWB7pgXUBGdSWdhip25olwMbbO0M1SIzdIhpz9oTd0lGDAj fWdfW6uC6w0RX6jxyt+alsOs5W3n6TnXBA7m9RJT1aUGB+tsnfbc1BDAUlBfCA== Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WWHKk2F4Tzxyc for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 46R87cDb090249 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:07:38 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 46R87cjR090244 for ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:07:38 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 280396] Mk/Uses/cmake.mk: Disallow USE_CSTD and USE_CXXSTD Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 08:07:38 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Ports & Packages X-Bugzilla-Component: Ports Framework X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: diizzy@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: kde@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Ports bug reports List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports-bugs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D280396 --- Comment #9 from Daniel Engberg --- (In reply to Jason E. Hale from comment #7) Quirk is probably the wrong word for it, "hidden" feature is probably bette= r. Given the current status it's very easy to overlook let alone find it as Go= ogle or whatever search engine you perfer won't return something usable. Telling people to "by default" look at the source code is neither helpful, inviting= or productive. My point is that if the goal is make it tedious for people to utilize ports framework "properly" we're on the wrong path. If we look at the fallout there's quite a high amount (given the amount of ports utilizing it in tree) that gets this wrong and I'd argue that if we o= nly had one way defining the number would be much lower. Your mentioned examples also shows a pattern worth looking into, Looking at USE_LOCALE there seems to be ~30% or so of all ports doing somet= hing else than utilizing USE_LOCALE. USE_BINUTILS shows about 50% or possibly even more not using it in favour of BUILD_DEPENDS I'll try to wrap up the Part 2/3 later today (3/3 being the list already posted) and then tackle CSTD as time allows. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.=