From nobody Wed Mar 30 15:25:53 2022 X-Original-To: ports-bugs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C461A4D25F for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KT9Hj3MLLz3PbC for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CEB615B30 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 22UFPrd0036077 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:25:53 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 22UFPrC8036076 for ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:25:53 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 262909] Some "maintainer" addresses blocked to non-subscribers Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:25:53 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: CC X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Services X-Bugzilla-Component: Mailing Lists X-Bugzilla-Version: unspecified X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Many People X-Bugzilla-Who: mi@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: New X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: core@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: attachments.created Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Ports bug reports List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports-bugs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1648653953; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Wut1sGBgSuHrVggdsINoqhPm8bxDc3h2hupesbFZ/Q4=; b=Gysf4mCGXJesKfQuVNUlXpBN5TLPFhKVWhbuwbckc1bBUVl6cQJ4WZEmYO4NPhIyFOfP6c 2/Oa1Ues1UcGf6pW8Eqp/cYc7uxp1qOgwARFO87bonzirGI+3OiWnA7iC0Zoe0/cnX5p36 M0apzJxSERYS0kjd/pG2JV0o/UTziPoiUFfmUMuwSkoqr2vD9j+IpeHZPjCLu6MElGHS86 /waz+ollXVWxPeAIyIWsMkNU/I06kga77PCJbKcr32HpR5iwA3ZI5Zzq8uO3idsQH99zb3 jRDNB6R14zyt1VdcLe+BwxVi2KkdLC+Fx0swnNpZd9d4xCq+rUAZGwV68wzGzw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1648653953; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=BHcrT7CiigBAieK7wyqrczB6FL0ktO5AmLBCU+THVIjPFVRQON8GnRg+/ggNDMRbNQQUJy vwR9xTrW1rWEfoZBf+C6fdBJ15FcY+2rW3GMgw2BoREXhLN4Anq7abNMSJJ+frVUMFqXsn PHHJE0YtEaG0kHRN+fF9OazeN/zPxxNvTav2M/38FgWXKFqgpym9TKtFUUX1UZQBe6VSHc NpjabdTCQsD5w12REeU2bX66psVTl9NuySY7i+2Wg3SWlCEv+KVrNLF+WNnPjaxTytWxc4 7kuwQa7wEYdzquROt9h7wuhTyFX42M7cfWvqrhNMtVAFLckDxuxBl/fzV4DD8Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D262909 --- Comment #2 from Mikhail Teterin --- Created attachment 232820 --> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D232820&action= =3Dedit Bogus rejection of a patch-submission by e-mail (In reply to Rene Ladan from comment #1) > This is not a problem for portmgr Of course, it is a problem for portmgr -- as is any problem affecting multi= ple ports and requiring a unified response. It certainly has nothing to do with the Postmaster or Mailing Lists -- _som= e_ of those may legitimately be closed, just not those advertised as support-sources. > it takes 1 minute to subscribe to such a list This is flawed -- one should not be required to subscribe to anything in or= der to simply ASK A QUESTION. It does not matter, if the subscribing takes a minute, a second, or a week of filing applications and supplying notarized copies of supporting documents (as may be necessitated in the future by the rapid evolution of spam toolkits). FreeBSD does not require users to "register" to obtain support -- as some vendors do -- and that's, how things ought to continue. The MAINTAINER field is there for users to contact first and foremost. If t= he specified address bounces for almost all of such users, then it is undeliverable -- how is this not obvious? I maintain, that this attitude -- and the number of hoops a would-be contributor is required to jump through -- is an impediment to the Project. For evidence, I'm attaching a sample bounce email with an automated rejecti= on of a patch -- on account of the sender not being a "subscriber". Because I = know the project well, I resubmitted the same patch as a PR (bug #262908) -- but= a newcomer, probably, wouldn't bother to do so... --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.=