From nobody Wed May 10 09:44:23 2023 X-Original-To: pkgbase@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4QGVVT3l4cz49dY7 for ; Wed, 10 May 2023 09:44:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from mx0.gentlemail.de (mx0.gentlemail.de [IPv6:2a00:e10:2800::a130]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QGVVS35LMz4V83 for ; Wed, 10 May 2023 09:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@omnilan.de designates 2a00:e10:2800::a130 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@omnilan.de; dmarc=none Received: from mh0.gentlemail.de (mh0.gentlemail.de [78.138.80.135]) by mx0.gentlemail.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 34A9iN2q000468 for ; Wed, 10 May 2023 11:44:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@omnilan.de) Received: from titan.inop.mo1.omnilan.net (s1.omnilan.de [217.91.127.234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mh0.gentlemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D52BB899 for ; Wed, 10 May 2023 11:44:23 +0200 (CEST) To: pkgbase@FreeBSD.org From: Harry Schmalzbauer Subject: What setup method is planned for pkgbase? Organization: OmniLAN Message-ID: <81e4426a-7b8f-f84a-f201-0892f460c2b8@omnilan.de> Date: Wed, 10 May 2023 11:44:23 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 List-Id: Packaging the FreeBSD base system List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-pkgbase List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.28 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.981]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[pkgbase@FreeBSD.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[omnilan.de]; ASN(0.00)[asn:61157, ipnet:2a00:e10:2800::/38, country:DE]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[pkgbase@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QGVVS35LMz4V83 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hello, back in times (sysinstall(8) aera), when geom(4) was extended for GPT (and gpart(8) got the ability to write GPT labels) I created my own, highly customized installer, which has the drawback that it still requires a special distribution media (iso with cpio archives). My plans to support the official ISO never materialized, but it's still providing a sophisticated (auto-partitioning) ZFS and UFS setup job likewise for UEFI and BIOS based system (emerged from a embedded project) and provides a radical update concept: newfs (UFS factory snapshot with auto-backup+restore, resp. new ZFS datasets). It is focused on productive servers, with as much read-only mounts as possible (and omitting dev bytes on those strictly productive machines) and was a sysinstall(8) substitution. Since the ammount of machines to deploy massively decreased for me, and pkgbase seems to be more or less ready ('make packages' left a beautiful repo), I want to replace my customized installation methods (transfering all it's features for optional usage). I'm planning to use whatever FreeBSD uses by default.  Currently, it's bsdinstall(8) I guess (which I never used), but I'm not sure if it is planned that bsdinstall(8) will be made pkgbase compatible. Is anyone already working on a pkgbase-based installer (different than bsdinstall(8))? Maybe I can implement my additional options/features in a way useful for FreeBSD too.  I'm personally focusing on local repo - media backed for the beginning.  Would be a honor to help making some progress in that area (2nd half of this year will allow me to spend some more time on that). Skills: not many besides sh(1), but a lot of experience in real-world needs and ready to improve C finally :-) And quiet familiar with build(7) and make(1) of course. Does anybody know anyone who could want help for pkgbase installer and would want to ramp me up? Best, -harry