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[209.85.219.177]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-6209e346ef3sm34671887b3.102.2024.05.16.06.13.41 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 May 2024 06:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f177.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dee9943a293so4380918276.0 for ; Thu, 16 May 2024 06:13:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCX/X5SPbuUYRHuBrQqK05fZWWPi7P3T00XmopM6I8xiZdj0qNgupkHALj6NCzru6DZiBJdpLz2ehXMjGQ0dBPc= X-Received: by 2002:a25:2b45:0:b0:de0:d515:259b with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dee4f335262mr15847947276.59.1715865221578; Thu, 16 May 2024 06:13:41 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tomek CEDRO Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 15:13:30 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: removing RIP/RIPng (routed/route6d) To: Scott , net@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.29 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.989]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[net@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1130:from,209.85.219.177:received]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[net@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Vg9X83VVjz4tcf On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 3:03=E2=80=AFPM Lexi Winter wrote= : > (..) > almost anything would be useful for someone, somewhere. for example, > i'd quite like to see a basic Wayland compositor (such as hikari) and a > terminal emulator in the base system, because that's a bit nicer to use > than vt(4) if you just need to occasionally manage a system via the > framebuffer console. i feel fairly confident to say that this would be > useful to a greater number of people than an implementation of RIP. If that takes around 10MB its worth considering.. may be helpful for visual oci management :-) > would people objecting to the removal of routed also advocate for > putting window(1) back into base? (this is not a rhetorical question, > 'yes' is a perfectly reasonable answer.) The subtle difference between "removing RIP/RIPng (routed/route6d)" and "[base->ports] moving RIP/RIPng (routed/route6d) to ports" :-) Have a good day folks :-) --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info