From nobody Fri Aug 04 10:35:45 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-net@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RHMZ26hCBz4h128 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 10:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Xztu=DV=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl) Received: from smtp-relay-int.realworks.nl (smtp-relay-int.realworks.nl [194.109.157.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RHMZ24G5zz4Pdp; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 10:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=Xztu=DV=klop.ws=ronald-lists@realworks.nl) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 12:35:45 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=klop.ws; s=rw2; t=1691145345; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2nhfiBxDFo3+eoQB4vlRM/Lj+aRZBqwURTMmtqFFgIw=; b=IXFMo9GLUcmgqSwxqekZYQzMLOx4ct3b19ov83JCS+UMY2n3uPT8Vge1vwsZjWhrtHZJgi itf96MV851w+aK6AKDLQG5o2OqkMaahp/c1aW8y/YlggttPpmOHGHHMj06CrWYoy8b4CDr KVGFcb/nY8c6jobLLZWB61L7lZwe07J/pib5h7GS8XkTeGKhJu80gFsx2LNJLtKaXWP63g 85v5SA3/BXOOwzQJc3+KGErSdLuQsXUCqpVUmpycRgj5PsUiKkX+eLd9Lc2acz9tneAdH7 PUWMpJrABoVKwecD2rGZ68Rm9ktJCnNjWs5ZXloyEzDDbSMMInZPRVpJ9fIXqw== From: Ronald Klop To: Baptiste Daroussin Cc: guru@unixarea.de, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-ID: <1949453712.4207.1691145345281@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <1691031051-56818-mlmmj-5f44a9f8@FreeBSD.org> <202308031500.373F0mYX024048@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Subject: Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4206_1013685588.1691145345167" X-Mailer: Realworks (665.159) Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RHMZ24G5zz4Pdp X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3265, ipnet:194.109.0.0/16, country:NL] ------=_Part_4206_1013685588.1691145345167 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Van: Baptiste Daroussin Datum: donderdag, 3 augustus 2023 17:15 Aan: Jamie Landeg-Jones CC: guru@unixarea.de, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Onderwerp: Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org > > On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 04:00:48PM +0100, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > > I do not understand this message, especially not the number "3719" > > > (which, btw, is not a list but a number). > > > > Ignore it. It is not for you. It was sent to the list generally. > > Some misconfiguration somewhere! > > > > No it was not sent to the whole list but only to the people whom mail server > have bounced an incoming mail. > > It is not a configuration, this can happen in 2 cases: > - a change in the on your email provider which start bouncing emails (hence the > fact we don't stop those emails) > - but most case it is due to the antispam on your provider side, when a spam > managed to passthrough our (freebsd) antispam infrastructure. > > To receive the email that has bounced: > > mail freebsd-net+get-3719@freebsd.org (not that there is a good chance that it > bounces again if this was not a configuration change that has been fixed. > > or read it via the archives: > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.html > > and raw version: > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.txt > > if that helps you analysing why it did bounce. > > be careful of the id which is 3719 - 1 (but that is another story). > > Best regards, > Bapt > > > > Looking at the Received headers in the .txt it looks as if somebody is reinjecting (as a loop) a mail into the mailinglist again. See a snippet of the headers below. Searching through the archive I found https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003705.txt which seems to be the original. So the message is probably bounced legitimately. Regards, Ronald. 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Van: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
Datum: donderdag, 3 augustus 2023 17:15
Aan: Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org>
CC: guru@unixarea.de, freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Onderwerp: Re: Bouncing messages from freebsd-net@FreeBSD.org

On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 04:00:48PM +0100, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote:
> Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:
>
> > I do not understand this message, especially not the number "3719"
> > (which, btw, is not a list but a number).
>
> Ignore it. It is not for you. It was sent to the list generally.
> Some misconfiguration somewhere!
>

No it was not sent to the whole list but only to the people whom mail server
have bounced an incoming mail.

It is not a configuration, this can happen in 2 cases:
- a change in the on your email provider which start bouncing emails (hence the
  fact we don't stop those emails)
- but most case it is due to the antispam on your provider side, when a spam
  managed to passthrough our (freebsd) antispam infrastructure.

To receive the email that has bounced:

mail freebsd-net+get-3719@freebsd.org (not that there is a good chance that it
bounces again if this was not a configuration change that has been fixed.

or read it via the archives:
https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.html

and raw version:
https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003718.txt

if that helps you analysing why it did bounce.

be careful of the id which is 3719 - 1 (but that is another story).

Best regards,
Bapt
 


Looking at the Received headers in the .txt it looks as if somebody is reinjecting (as a loop) a mail into the mailinglist again. See a snippet of the headers below.
Searching through the archive I found https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net/2023-August/003705.txt which seems to be the original.

So the message is probably bounced legitimately.

Regards,
Ronald.

  
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