From nobody Mon Aug 08 07:27:16 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-net@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4M1ST35TwVz4YKS6 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2022 07:27:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@opnsense.org) Received: from mail.opnsense.org (mail.opnsense.org [81.171.24.236]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4M1ST24tdmz3HL9; Mon, 8 Aug 2022 07:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@opnsense.org) Received: from localhost (mail.opnsense.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.opnsense.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A86F154FDE; Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:27:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.opnsense.org Received: from mail.opnsense.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.opnsense.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LCer4bgfWYFp; Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:27:17 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opnsense.org; s=dkim; t=1659943637; bh=YTVk/EiLWqijfJDPV1dhh+ZA5SxonFkqXcnOo1TcYAA=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=PexMNwPv2IwxZbNv5DFh6brb6Shv39s6vzF7FdzS9ISYgLqU+sCQL5ARqCoJF1h1k XA+Pw3I+Kj4nA5YKj5f0wSMgPtTtQpvXH9xYwK26Qy2JHhZoVTi5NRLJoThKqCjy7C 1gjrpuFamGtz/YWqz99Z/zq08vP475HLH2VjtJXo= List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Subject: Re: Import dhcpcd(8) into FreeBSD base From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <20220807145236.27FA8225@slippy.cwsent.com> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:27:16 +0200 Cc: Ben Woods , FreeBSD Net , emaste@freebsd.org, Doug Rabson , roy@marples.name, Hiroki Sato , brooks@freebsd.org, cy@freebsd.org, Philip Paeps Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9831CA1D-1AE2-4B46-A781-D6B98BECDFBA@opnsense.org> <20220807145236.27FA8225@slippy.cwsent.com> To: Cy Schubert X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4M1ST24tdmz3HL9 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=opnsense.org header.s=dkim header.b=PexMNwPv; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=opnsense.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of franco@opnsense.org designates 81.171.24.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=franco@opnsense.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[opnsense.org,quarantine]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[opnsense.org:s=dkim]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-net@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[10]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:60781, ipnet:81.171.0.0/19, country:NL]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[opnsense.org:+]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > On 7. Aug 2022, at 4:52 PM, Cy Schubert = wrote: >=20 > My opinion as well. I need to see a solid business case why what we = have in=20 > FreeBSD base needs to be changed and how any proposed change will = benefit=20 > all FreeBSD users, not just one depending distribution. Right now I = just=20 > don't see it. I like the irony here. I can see it clearly. What FreeBSD desperately needs is another iflib or WireGuard moment. ;) Cheers, Franco=