From nobody Fri Feb 10 00:16:32 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-jobs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PCZ6Q60JVz3pfT0 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 00:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x631.google.com (mail-ej1-x631.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::631]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PCZ6Q4Jwgz3PJT for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 00:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ej1-x631.google.com with SMTP id c26so6869870ejz.10 for ; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 16:16:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=M9EEkZ63jaWStIOLQVLSmmsg0tXtZgRSYEiYoXMBlr4=; b=nH3e9SNcdqlD43SbGdYWnERwTbTR7dcgZY7AexLtgj8oY9MzNHisck0PNed2d0j4oj Uxk/zcA8n8nSVi/Qksv1Mr7lciiU1+syiLg4U6SD0k123N7tGKLlXV1acLXdljKKs4vc rSo1hFpvFW5guq1m9/qa0mZwc/zx1PmVg7QLiNbjZnBFdHCrG1BSUxK0DBq572j7g256 N7wGkfnn4wQeSqP9q7BhU5GVpz7Pp0wXQgQn06iM+kGwiQtm8oG4tipj0EF89ymWnHzL mF218xXAYmINBImoodUxU1bSYv3/FPamLuKxQm3vw9dlm40zNTciu6nBtS7RiKLtdUaX ggMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=M9EEkZ63jaWStIOLQVLSmmsg0tXtZgRSYEiYoXMBlr4=; b=Nle1Rc6QDaoWtx7gVYpilNOpVze7Y8i4N81cAN74csdSNlHK2zEp60qzvLoZ491qsM 0rXN4KxpXVI8wmLDd5JWNw37nbDXh/2IVlhn+cGaWCi6V1fAuzjQaWY/j9mbz0pJjsgT XcRN+CijHSKgQXIi30aGVPzAwThznUZahmFhlstvg3Yz7jpKhg7n0P4KkHwMIkkbvfzU 3hE++tj4GYIQ2MQhyPjrG9O/WNkoMlke7a9M/cfIlhE/4FpQoNUq+INrKId8oasPQYMo YSUBqWE+Jlz5EsE/9uE8SSRy+KtfOu8QuhXgb45jNj8NtsVsnGcNYeejIDvLIvdVIl9X fD/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKVKD7EQf6wuEuLirV0sIIKD6oAN7KxiKYc4N2GL3bD8hlXFxzZZ Lav/mCGsJcrlRhbd+IhuWLNZoW/oUTLspKps51S7tw3X X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set8hIlGfJNKz4O0aw+ePcY3aaCjfIcJKFp8AwmxR228F4rxig2fxwFe5Z1gHQLLTraK4pfNqFAMRVP9GHVlhSGM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:13ca:b0:8af:28b5:f80c with SMTP id g10-20020a17090613ca00b008af28b5f80cmr1200704ejc.304.1675988204105; Thu, 09 Feb 2023 16:16:44 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Jobs offered and sought List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-jobs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 19:16:32 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Klara Inc. Is looking for a FreeBSD OS Developer To: Peter Cc: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PCZ6Q4Jwgz3PJT X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 2:45 PM Peter wrote: > Concerning job offers, it's quite a crazy topic. Usually in a job > you do something you *don't* love to do, and you do it for the money. Doing "what you love" does not put food on the table and/or roof over your head unless it is paid. If it is paid then it is a job. I have never seen such (upper) middle class privilege in my life before. But if you want to do it for free and have no other support then that "job" please let me do it. Maybe something has changed in how economics works. Note this is why pure FOSS (i.e. the "free" part) is designed by large orgs for large orgs not small time orgs like my consulting firm or Klara. In short, unless you're a Marxist then you have one bizarre definition of a "job". -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org