From nobody Thu Feb 09 19:40:35 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-jobs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PCS5T2qBgz3nVwC for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 19:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.org (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840::12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "uucp.dinoex.sub.de", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PCS5S0n5gz3npQ for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 19:45:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org designates 2a0b:f840::12 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org; dmarc=none Received: from uucp.dinoex.org (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840:0:0:0:0:0:12]) by uucp.dinoex.org (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPS id 319Jj5Sn075661 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:45:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp.dinoex.org (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) with UUCP id 319Jj5JY075659 for freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:45:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from disp.intra.daemon.contact (disp-e.intra.daemon.contact [IPv6:fd00:0:0:0:0:0:0:112]) by admn.intra.daemon.contact (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 319JedEN041582 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:40:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from disp.intra.daemon.contact (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disp.intra.daemon.contact (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 319JeZdM004325 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:40:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: (from pmc@localhost) by disp.intra.daemon.contact (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 319JeZoX004324 for freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:40:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: disp.intra.daemon.contact: pmc set sender to pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org using -f Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 20:40:35 +0100 From: Peter To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Klara Inc. Is looking for a FreeBSD OS Developer Message-ID: List-Id: Jobs offered and sought List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-jobs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.org; Sender-ip: 0:0:2a0b:f840::; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.org;) X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840:0:0:0:0:0:12]); Thu, 09 Feb 2023 20:45:08 +0100 (CET) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; FAKE_REPLY(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sub.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:205376, ipnet:2a0b:f840::/32, country:DE]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PCS5S0n5gz3npQ X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2023-02-07, J. Hellenthal wrote: > Just so you are aware, Klara has has a commitment to feeding back to > freebsd for a while now. It's commendable! > > Seen multiple commits to the source tree that mentions Klara. While > I follow 12-STABLE at this time ive seen then multiple times before. Hm, I'm not sure what to make of this Klara shop. They have some articles online, but these play mostly on the surface, they're not the in-depth stuff I am usually looking for. Concerning feeding back - that has become difficult indeed. I am only fixing bugs that I encounter, in everything I handle. And when I manage to fix one, I try to hand that back to the people in charge. And that is not always possible: with some public-domain software, you are allowed to use it, modify it, and publish the modifications - but you need to sign a contract in order to be allowed to report the bugfixes back to the maintainers (and you would need a lawyer versed in international intellectual property law in order to even understand such a contract - and that gets very expensive). Concerning job offers, it's quite a crazy topic. Usually in a job you do something you *don't* love to do, and you do it for the money. But I *love* to hack The Berkeley (and I'm doing that for 25 years now). On rare occasions when I actually had a job, I had to hack something else, e.g. AIX (which is boring, because you don't get the sources - but then, you can lookup their bugs in the Berkeley source, and probably you find them there, fixed). cheers, PMc