From nobody Wed Dec 20 21:30:42 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-hardware@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SwRZ84VQQz55N8H for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 21:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rosti.bsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-xa2d.google.com (mail-vk1-xa2d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SwRZ75wmbz3TnV for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 21:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rosti.bsd@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=RIKa8y5F; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rosti.bsd@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=rosti.bsd@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com Received: by mail-vk1-xa2d.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-4b6d6f16899so26788e0c.0 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 13:30:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1703107854; x=1703712654; darn=freebsd.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Wnr0I//srrJkwRRz4RW7w9feLyqvzvBme2vhBDTWl9k=; b=RIKa8y5F89J0mhUUEbLDRjLvJwsfdI4W7mizLxvKQ9k/CFwVyMRm/Z3bCFqfokXYRP dwGKNJuAqdcwTbJVAvgceUn1+0YtnxS20T3GUZfWZ1lkIsjS0+IWACL/vKD73qdU1S/Z V/BOwOmTi2CMn1bfGwbATh+9T0EIm2EU1iEetAF1I5l7ufDzcp3ZDijtDnFJJHKsdDik hGZV+E/q55CjWJzilNzo4AjghuLMNVp3mK8va0E3yhV2vhAdgYWVeouz4FYsy5s4dax/ 6dhWrtKqLbn4q0L3cncRw8MIjxxMYM3zVOUA9nNwAnSCTh74CoBZl5soovi8emuhdzUx QHgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1703107854; x=1703712654; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Wnr0I//srrJkwRRz4RW7w9feLyqvzvBme2vhBDTWl9k=; b=T752/JaDtCNrGORO6VVUcbI8SAn0L/q96Be2Tp4U11oZcr+RbFwLbkwkXwamJi6yHt ZepxqGTSOkeif1N1y6jjDKNsDE1Jk1PtQDWAIayO1bjDpeh9I4Tsc3e/tZDE6CSP3+pQ xtMINnfbrPSSr8TmD7rp6FCiRZqiDYiDPJP5NqYwl1h4u9vj6iR3a9a4hfcOG9ESPLY8 sbkiUEtXuD+ItrN+Pyvb9I080vEy2YRfGB+fx1AdFHRaz7Qmwu1MAUx9cmFmBaK0m5l6 TCjPy3NIcvQ+ZoBKhjsf70Jcs6YTl0AgOfiXCKuWKMkGKzFZTx0qLNgj/COYcjeatdcq ADzw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwI4TUY0coBQkTJwZ13vfAr9sDHynxBUsqbCwbaCNJVBXSkVsFg XrRledk2nyHBtPpeiD6WsQ1W2c9zkotpY1tNsc8HqRY+K6Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEBJIIKFI88DVl4lfBdQuPEURSd1narQprJw9VmbX3yqvOs2pIFogGfI+rk9Y+iz5TTE8Azz74ACU8NKkhAeGI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:336:b0:4b6:b728:1b40 with SMTP id d22-20020a056122033600b004b6b7281b40mr9282658vko.1.1703107854599; Wed, 20 Dec 2023 13:30:54 -0800 (PST) List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hardware List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Rostislav Krasny Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 23:30:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Hardware recommendations needed To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2d:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SwRZ75wmbz3TnV X-Spamd-Bar: --- Hello there, I'm looking for a mini pc to make a custom internet router with FreeBSD on it and I need hardware recommendations about what is better to buy. This mini pc must have and support with FreeBSD following things: 1. One SFP port compatible with 1.25 Gbps SFP fiber-optic transceivers. 2. One or more 1 Gbps Ethernet RJ45 port(s). 3. Ability to work (including BIOS setup) without a monitor and a keyboard using only a serial terminal instead, i.e. using another computer connected. 4. Two USB ports or at least one USB and single RS232 port, i.e. one port to connect a bootable USB drive with FreeBSD installer and a second port to connect an external serial terminal. 5. WiFi 6. Ability to work with the latest FreeBSD and to "make world" (rebuild everything) in a reasonable time (not days). 7. Fanless. Not sure about the CPU architecture. Could it be a 64-bit x86 or better to think about something else? Regarding the serial terminal connection. I didn't use it for a long time. The RS232 port isn't available in today's computers. Is it possible at all to make a USB to USB serial terminal connection, like we did in the old days with two RS232 ports and a null modem cable? I've found there are RS232 to USB adapters people use to connect a terminal emulator on a laptop to an RS232 console on embedded devices. Is it the only option today? In case it is, could you recommend one as well? Regards!