From nobody Mon Sep 16 21:08:32 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X6yFZ1Zksz5X1ZJ for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:08:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbeeble@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com (mail-lf1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X6yFY6jdGz4CMQ for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:08:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbeeble@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-5366fd6fdf1so6250253e87.0 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:08:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1726520925; x=1727125725; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=N1EaGkNz+fJhGXE8Pa5B6DYiUXrt8fZn3GzhXdJRGaU=; b=I9cG98ZcwoVD71CMTwMc4E+Dq6D0LchWyisYb0PSJAjt4BIuXVuhCJO+MKUV+S/wD3 nkBpjxVPyubDEJQ1OETStTJ462oMGtVcn+EyaX2YS/JlYrvy7Pu2myPIyYwCfo7tuDRk /s2nfHUABNyJUF1f9dqqk23Vnkf8AFi4dnhjucW3ZlOz4/QSLPjUtYRvuB9YGG7Evwxm LIZ+/a53TK3b5ORL4o5NvO1DJqjKWgdmGsDpfm2+DMZJXmoP7TgHnIDFPFVzrn/xx7/B KjISaXs2wJmhwAqYln90yztPPCjYbELBMkMsVgIHdWWuUG8LlRGwasJUrp0/Gq+7XK8M NADw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1726520925; x=1727125725; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=N1EaGkNz+fJhGXE8Pa5B6DYiUXrt8fZn3GzhXdJRGaU=; b=iP5Wse0HvF5VHlfBdgUmVbZ8j4QFxfAkRy6A5HXRDDpO/Jhm0vS99kx9sr4yyGlBMG pB0tzAQNR3cRJ5nyEkqQUSj+Mg2vtYNBi5j9SLacNVIRe5v0MpVkCBZm22M6X0xNXy8z R92R1njsip/I7HZ9wkcI4V9jov5kgl3/mhf5i7syS+Tc15oQSqTsfGN5ouGnaSS2aHjg hkHPbKqEImhy+TbYw06HIUmEBCBelVgcT2B+bh/VbWYTr7h02jjsb5CLMRvvKIxjogun HH96FzOe2Ix4c8IQX5QF8JnC5qOmUdn1TT6n43vQz4A7slgRrQnMiISvNfCoqbNDS9uL ZVKg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVBGJqi/qq5MoTLPHPNUqP9ofivBlfNlKP+xZdQl5ao69EF3CeWuUXkBCzUALmsSjbAen4jNCGuWOe+5cGrx0s=@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yxvvp+jnoKO2fqlOb922BpJqEaw4TqY1Jk/+/cgIzDPfLVOyysP sopIcFpoHLgMCDhwdI2+HF/7veKBIlLVQLo7F0GxCeeS3NNpYw7FXjVjsT/qDVq7F+G5fjt3Btj 4V+5HTxiAVU5gR93i4Ejn3ur1eQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGOtc3yFVDvxKZOl2ShU/1EH4/ByBrtv3v7uvVUX++QrFf/zMRpI7H4FkDBqxR1AmelEfzVKhfhFTkrCADdi54= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:e99:b0:52e:9f6b:64 with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-53678fc2279mr7967351e87.34.1726520924430; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:08:44 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4022cbe2-312b-4b47-9d3a-b02c588f47b2@protasenko.com> <202409162022.48GKMdrv063115@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <202409162022.48GKMdrv063115@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:08:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: X11 pauses on FreeBSD 14 that are "fixed" by moving the mouse. To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: alex@protasenko.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000065e970062242fa67" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X6yFY6jdGz4CMQ --00000000000065e970062242fa67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's a Lightspeed G903 from Logitec. It has special features in Winblows, but it also has a "feature" that it remembers it's settings when not in winblows. It shows up as a USB mouse and a USB keyboard (because you can remap the buttons). It is wireless, but it's wireless to USB. It also charges by sitting on the mousemat ... virtually never needing to be plugged in. Anyways... things stop when the mouse stops and go when the mouse is used --- so it doesn't seem like an interrupt storm. AFAICR, it's set to 1000 samples / second. I'm not a fan of Apple anything. I'm kinda interested in the Risc-V ecosystem, but it's taking awhile to get there. Until then, this threadripper is pretty good. On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 4:22=E2=80=AFPM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Zaphod Beeblebrox writes: > > What kind of mouse ? > > On my T14s there is a bug with the touchpad which sometimes gets the > datastream > out of whack and causes a short interrupt storm until thing settles down. > > (According to Lenovo forums the problem also exist under Windows and the > "it > shouldn't but it works" fix is to close the lid and open it again.) > > PS: I think Lenovo's thinkpads have become increasingly suck over the las= t > decade, how's running FreeBSD native on Apple M[1234] CPU's coming ? > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetenc= e. > --00000000000065e970062242fa67 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's a Lightspeed G903 from Logitec.=C2=A0 It has= special features in Winblows, but it also has a "feature" that i= t remembers it's settings when not in winblows.=C2=A0 It shows up as a = USB mouse and a USB keyboard (because you can remap the buttons).=C2=A0 It = is wireless, but it's wireless to USB.=C2=A0 It also charges by sitting= on the mousemat ... virtually never needing to be plugged in.
Anyways... things stop when the mouse stops and go when the mo= use is used --- so it doesn't seem like an interrupt storm.=C2=A0 AFAIC= R, it's set to 1000 samples / second.

I'm = not a fan of Apple anything.=C2=A0 I'm kinda interested in the Risc-V e= cosystem, but it's taking awhile to get there.=C2=A0 Until then, this t= hreadripper is pretty good.

<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 4:22=E2=80=AFP= M Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freeb= sd.dk> wrote:
Zaphod Beeblebrox writes:

What kind of mouse ?

On my T14s there is a bug with the touchpad which sometimes gets the datast= ream
out of whack and causes a short interrupt storm until thing settles down.
(According to Lenovo forums the problem also exist under Windows and the &q= uot;it
shouldn't but it works" fix is to close the lid and open it again.= )

PS: I think Lenovo's thinkpads have become increasingly suck over the l= ast
decade, how's running FreeBSD native on Apple M[1234] CPU's coming = ?

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