From nobody Mon Sep 09 07:39:09 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X2Jcd3wTlz5W2dq for ; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 07:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X2Jcd0wQQz4SMM; Mon, 9 Sep 2024 07:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 352E289284; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 07:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.18.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 4897d92v078621; Mon, 9 Sep 2024 07:39:09 GMT (envelope-from phk) Message-Id: <202409090739.4897d92v078621@critter.freebsd.dk> To: David Chisnall cc: Warner Losh , Kristof Provost , Alan Somers , Dmitry Salychev , Jan Knepper , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: The Case for Rust (in any system) In-reply-to: <202DD893-B152-4B38-AE9B-862E08785396@freebsd.org> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <202409082111.488LBTtI074660@critter.freebsd.dk> <202DD893-B152-4B38-AE9B-862E08785396@freebsd.org> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <78619.1725867549.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 07:39:09 +0000 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X2Jcd0wQQz4SMM -------- David Chisnall writes: > On 8 Sep 2024, at 22:11, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > The logical progression of C++ adoption would start with using a C++ > > compiler as a better C compiler. > > Compiling C as C++ will *normally* give the same output, but not always. But do you agree that the C++ compiler's take on things make more sense than the C compiler's in these cases ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.