From nobody Fri Sep 06 16:00:30 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X0gtW1FKnz5VPC5 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2024 16:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X0gtV0hJnz4rXN; Fri, 6 Sep 2024 16:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6A0F8928B; Fri, 06 Sep 2024 16:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.18.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 486G0UrR046040; Fri, 6 Sep 2024 16:00:30 GMT (envelope-from phk) Message-Id: <202409061600.486G0UrR046040@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Daniel Eischen cc: Antranig Vartanian , Alan Somers , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: The Case for Rust (in any system) In-reply-to: <102A9A46-D577-4651-8418-5E7946EA30A0@vigrid.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <202409060836.4868agnQ042462@critter.freebsd.dk> <102A9A46-D577-4651-8418-5E7946EA30A0@vigrid.com> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <46038.1725638430.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2024 16:00:30 +0000 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X0gtV0hJnz4rXN -------- Daniel Eischen writes: > And back in the 80s, Ada was supposed to be the answer for safe coding l= anguage. And it seems to have done quite well. Show me any other language which has developed something like SPARK ? I think Ada's problem was that it was a "DoD language" so everything was priced 10 times what it should have been, (because why not when you can get away with it...) -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .