From nobody Tue Sep 03 20:13:43 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Wyxf83cGlz52S7q for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2024 20:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan@digitaldaemon.com) Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [162.217.114.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4Wyxf81GB7z4k8M for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2024 20:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan@digitaldaemon.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: (qmail 1260 invoked by uid 89); 3 Sep 2024 20:13:45 -0000 Received: from c-69-142-153-99.hsd1.nj.comcast.net (HELO ?10.0.0.22?) (jan@digitaldaemon.com@69.142.153.99) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 3 Sep 2024 20:13:45 -0000 Message-ID: <062dbaaa-c0cc-49c1-967d-c7f4429f5f76@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 16:13:43 -0400 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: It's not Rust, it's FreeBSD (and LLVM) To: David Cross , Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <202409031532.483FW0If007252@critter.freebsd.dk> <159D15FA-6235-484C-A54A-565E3CDEA690@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Jan Knepper In-Reply-To: <159D15FA-6235-484C-A54A-565E3CDEA690@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:162.217.112.0/22, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Wyxf81GB7z4k8M On 9/3/24 15:36, David Cross wrote: > >> On Sep 3, 2024, at 11:32 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> What is FreeBSD ? >> ----------------- >> >> Forget Rust for the moment, I promise I will come back to it. >> ... >> ... >> ... >> Poul-Henning >> >> PS: I overdosed on release work 25+ years ago, and have not been >> paying them much attention since, but if this is what the pkgbase >> crew has been pushing for more than a decade, we all owe them an >> apology. > As a quick note I constantly build freebsd from source. I do it for all of my systems for all updates, all patch releases. > > I may be an outlier here, but my impression from email, forum posts, and redit threads suggests it is at least somewhat common. > > There are ways to marry both worlds (like poudriere, which I also use to manage my empire), but I’d like to not completely discount the usecase; at the very least the ease of buildworld is important for the releasee engineering process > itself. Same here. Not as much anymore as I used to, but it is still my preferred way (a build) to install updates.