Re: FreeBSD hugepages
- Reply: Mark Johnston : "Re: FreeBSD hugepages"
- In reply to: Jake Freeland : "Re: FreeBSD hugepages"
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 22:34:43 UTC
On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 04:11:22PM -0500, Jake Freeland wrote: > On 7/25/24 15:18, Mark Johnston wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 02:47:16PM -0500, Jake Freeland wrote: > > > On 7/25/24 14:02, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 01:46:17PM -0500, Jake Freeland wrote: > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > I have been steadily working on bringing Data Plane Development Kit (DPDK) > > > > > on FreeBSD up to date with the Linux version. The most significant hurdle so > > > > > far has been supporting concurrent DPDK processes, each with their own > > > > > contiguous memory regions. > > > > > > > > > > These contiguous regions are used by DPDK as a heap for allocating DMA > > > > > buffers and other miscellaneous resources. Retrieving the underlying memory > > > > > and mapping these regions is currently different on Linux and FreeBSD: > > > > > > > > > > On Linux, hugepages are fetched from the kernel's pre-allocated hugepage > > > > > pool and are mapped into virtual address space on DPDK initialization. Since > > > > > the hugepages exist in a pool, multiple processes can reserve their own > > > > > hugepages and operate concurrently. > > > > > > > > > > On FreeBSD, DPDK uses an in-house contigmem kernel module that reserves a > > > > > large contiguous region of memory on load. During DPDK initialization, the > > > > > entire region is mapped into virtual address space. This leaves no memory > > > > > for another independent DPDK process, so only one process can operate at a > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > I could modify the DPDK contigmem module to mimic Linux's hugepages, but I > > > > > thought it would be better to integrate and upstream a hugepage-like > > > > > interface directly in the FreeBSD kernel source. I am writing this email to > > > > > see if anyone has any advice on the matter. I did not see any previous > > > > > attempts at this in Phabriactor or the commit log, but it is possible that I > > > > > missed it. I have read about transparent superpage promotion, but that seems > > > > > like a different mechanism altogether. > > > > > > > > > > At a quick glance, the implementation seems straightforward: read some > > > > > loader tunables, allocate persistent hugepages at boot time, and create a > > > > > pseudo filesystem that supports creating and mapping hugepages. I could be > > > > > underestimating the magnitude of this task, but that is why I'm asking for > > > > > thoughts and advice :) > > > > > > > > > > For reference, here is Linux's documentation on hugepages: > > > > > https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/mm/hugetlbpage.html > > > > Are posix shm largepages objects enough (they were developed to support > > > > DPDK). Look for shm_create_largepage(3). > > > Yes, shm_create_largepage(2) looks promising, but I would like the ability > > > to allocate these largepages at boot time when memory fragmentation as at a > > > minimum. Perhaps a couple sysctl tunables could be added onto the > > > vm.largepages node to specify a pagesize and allocate some number of pages > > > at boot? > > We could add an rc script which creates named largepage objects. This > > can be done using the posixshmcontrol utility. That might not be early > > enough during boot for some purposes. In that case, we could have a > > module which creates such objects from within the kernel. This is > > pretty straightforward to do; I wrote a dumb version of this for a > > mips-specific project a few years ago, feel free to take code or > > inspiration from it: https://people.freebsd.org/~markj/tlbdemo.c > > Looks simple enough. Thanks for the example code. > > > > It seems Linux had an interface similar to shm_create_largepage(2) back in > > > v2.5, but they removed it in favor of their hugetlbfs filesystem. It would > > > be nice to stay close to the file-backed Linux interface to maximize code > > > sharing in userspace. It looks like the foundation for hugepages is there, > > > but the interface for allocation and access needs to be extended. > > POSIX shm objects have most of the properties one would want, I'd > > expect, save the ability to access them via standard syscalls. What > > else is missing besides the ability to reserve memory at boot time? > > Most notably, I would like the ability to allocate pages in a specific NUMA > domain. I thought this was already supported, but it seems not... It should be very easy to implement: extend shm_largepage_conf to include a NUMA domain parameter, and specify that domain when allocating pages for the object (in shm_largepage_dotruncate(), the vm_page_alloc_contig() call should become a vm_page_alloc_contig_domain() call). > Otherwise, in a perfect world, I'd like a unified interface for both > Linux and FreeBSD. Linux hugepages are managed using standard system calls; > files are mmap(2)'d into virtual address space from hugetlbfs and > ftruncate(2)'d. largepage shm objects work this way as well. > A matching interface would not add an extra kernel > entrypoint and even more importantly, it would ease the Linux-to-FreeBSD > porting process for programs that use hugepages.